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    2nd Place is Bittersweet

    I don't know about you, but for me placing 2nd in a large MTT defines bitter sweet.

    Over the last few weeks of my online poker playing before my summer job (where I can't play) I played in about ten 150+ entrant tournaments, and cashed in 3 of them. I tripled my $10 once, but in two $5 tournaments I got TWO runner up finishes. One tournament had 329 entrants, and I took $263. The other had 392 entrants, and I took $314. While the return on my $5 was great, I probably missed out on like $400 by not beating that ONE LAST PLAYER both times.

    My bust out in the smaller 329 player tournament was entirely my fault. With blinds at about 5,000/10,000, I had 150K chips and my opponent had like 250K. I was on the button with A 8, raised to 35K, and got repopped for all my chips. I was tired, made a bad decision, and called...only to see my opponents AJ suited. I didn't improve.

    My finish in the 394 person tournament wasn't my fault, and in fact I find it a testament to my skill that I even finished 2nd. I was the shortest stack when we got to the final table, and I think I only doubled up once...playing very few hands while letting my opponents exchange blows. Sure enough they started being eliminated, and after all the fireworks I was severely short stacked, about 10:1 in relation to my opponent. I had about 10 BB's left, and he pushed three hands in a row. Finally, with 8 or so BB's left, I found K Q and called his all in, only to see my KQ get beat by his 7 5 offsuit. With the size of our stacks I don't mind his insta-push regardless of his two cards, but I wouldn't have minded doubling up a couple times to make a game of it.

    Anyway, prior to the last month or so that I was playing cards, I rarely would enter large MTT's because I didn't think I had the patience for it. When I get back to California after my summer stint here in DC I'm going to shift my focus to about 25% Tournaments and 75% SNG's. I guess you all probably don't care all that much about any of this, but I just wanted to comment on what a mixed bag 2nd place is, especially when you grab a couple of them within a span of a few weeks and realize the amount of money you missed out on.
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    I think many of the players here will know how you feel. It's absolutely devastating to come 2nd in any decent sized field, let alone in two tournies in a short period of time.

    Switching some of your focus to tournies is a great idea. Sometimes at FT's you need to get in the mix a bit rather than sitting back, to give youself the chance to play for 1st. Otherwise you will come across situations like you did (with a 10:1 sack ratio) which will make it hard for you to close the deal.

    It might be a good idea to look back at your HH's from the two FT's and see if there is anything that you could have done to put yourself in a better position HU. I'd be more than happy to review the HH's for you, PM me for my e-mail.

    Good luck!

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    I'd love your help. I'm new here and am clueless about how to private message, as well as how to access my hand histories.

    If you know how I could access them, let me know. I'd love for your advice.
    I'm better, dude.

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    I used to play the daily $5 limit tourneys at Paradise for a while, and finishing 2nd twice in a row one week was strangely unsatisfying. It was my best couple of results, and in consecutive days, but I just had a weird sense of not having quite done well enough
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    Hmm. As problems go, not a bad one to have I guess.

    I had two consecutive second places in multi-table winner-take-all sats a little while back. Small tourneys of course, but MTTs nonetheless, and a nice prize. Now that's frustrating.
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