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[Willem]

I was spewing some chips at the no-fold'em tables when I got this beauty. You can imagine the comments everyone had afterwards.......

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.02/$0.04
7 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (7 players) Willem is Button with
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, CO calls, Willem calls, SB calls, BB checks.

I wanted the blinds to come along so I decided to slowplay.

Flop: (6SB, 6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, CO raises, Willem 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG caps, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Willem calls.

Raise for value, obviously the strait will come.

Turn: (9.5BB, 3 players)
UTG bets, CO calls, Willem raises, UTG 3-bets, CO calls, Willem caps, UTG calls, CO calls.

There it is, they never know what hit them.

River: (21.5BB, 3 players)
UTG bets, CO calls, Willem raises, UTG calls, CO calls.

Bad card, their single brain cell probably realizes something is going on and they slow down. I am just sooooo unlucky in this hand.

Results:
Final pot: 27.5BB
UTG mucks Ah 4d
CO mucks 6c Ac

[rayrns]

Willem wrote:

I decided to slowplay.

In 3 out of 4 posts that I have read today, you have referred to wanting to slowplay a hand. I am not sure of the original author but I think I read in Cardplayer that more times than not you will LOSE more money than you will make by slowplaying.

There are just so many times that you will lose your opponent after the flop that instead of making more money off them in the more expensive streets, they just fold and you have made nothing. If you can get 4 players to put in one more bet on the flop, it is the same as getting 2 players to call a bigger bet on the turn or river. At least on the flop you still have those 4 players but may only have 1 or 2 on the turn and then you are not sure they will call 2 bets.

The best slowplay in many cases is just playing your hand aggressive at the moment.

Wish I could link you to the post or article that I am referring to but I don't have it and am not possitive where I read it. But I do believe what they said.

Ray

[Willem]

You are correct in the sense that I should have played this hand fast before the flop.

And as for slowplaying in the general sense, it's just a phase I am going through. After playing no-fold'em for a few months ($0.25/$0.50 and lower), my game has become very simple and strait-forward. No slowplaying, no (semi)bluffing, just tight ABC poker, bet/raise when you have something, fold otherwise. The only tricks you can use there are the free card trick and inducing some bluffs.

I am trying to incorporate more deception into my game but you are correct in the sense that I must be careful not to turn slowplaying into some form of FPS. Besides, of all the hands I posted today, only 2 feature some potential slowplaying scenario.

[Willem]

Actually, now that we are talking about slowplaying. This article is great.

[loyo1]

Actually, now that we are talking about slowplaying. This article is great.

I read that a while back---had forgotten how funny it was. Tommy Angelo writes some good stuff.

An excerpt:

Robin: I was the raiser, and I have the button, and these two yahoos never know what I have. I like it. And I like my 9-4. It makes Mark and Chatter feel so good about themselves when I turn over a hand like that at the showdown. It amuses them, so I continue to do it, as a public service, like a humanitarian. Maybe they would be likewise amused to know that I got kicked out of Harvard for peddling bongs built in chem lab. And that now I own a chain of pipe stores, and that my cell phone is all charged up in case I'm needed, so let's see some flops. Here comes one right now....