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Where do you Factor this into your actions?

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Where do you Factor this into your actions?

Postby kinnipak » Aug 21 2010

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 0.25 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) (t1400)
UTG (t1390)
MP1 (t1490)
MP2 (t1440)
CO (t9010)
Button (t1700)

Hero's M: 46.67

Preflop: Hero is BB with :ah, :3c
MP1 calls t20, 1 fold, CO calls t20, Button calls t20, Hero calls t10, UTG checks

Flop: (t100) :ac, :8h, :3h (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets t100, 1 fold, CO calls t100, Button calls t100, Hero raises to t1380 (All-In), UTG calls t1270 (All-In), 2 folds

Turn: (t3040) :7h (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t3040) :7d (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t3040

Just bad luck or do you hold back and wait to see how things go on turn and river?

EDIT: Sorry, Villian had A10o.
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Postby nsidestrate » Aug 22 2010

I might raise to like 400 and shove any turn, but I'm more likely to just shove as you did. Two pair is going be vulnerable here, but it is an edge you can't pass up. It is almost as strong as getting Aces in against Queens pre-flop and you wouldn't be second guessing if that went badly.
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Postby kinnipak » Aug 22 2010

True Dat.
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Postby cowboyinexile » Aug 22 2010

nsidestrate wrote:I might raise to like 400 and shove any turn, but I'm more likely to just shove as you did. Two pair is going be vulnerable here, but it is an edge you can't pass up. It is almost as strong as getting Aces in against Queens pre-flop and you wouldn't be second guessing if that went badly.



Completly agree-would like to think I would have either led out on the flop or made a small er check\raise, but I have no argument against the C/R all-in. You set the trap, got value for it, and sprang it.

You played the hand well enough-in the end, you had villian right where you wanted him. He just lucked out this time.
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Postby ciaran » Aug 23 2010

I'd be leading the flop, since no one with an A is folding and you might as well make sure you charge heart draws if no one else has an A. I'm all for getting it in ASAP, so I'd be planing to 3b AI if raised, and as played looks good given that they bet it for you.
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Postby chrisjp » Aug 23 2010

ciaran wrote:I'd be leading the flop, since no one with an A is folding and you might as well make sure you charge heart draws if no one else has an A. I'm all for getting it in ASAP, so I'd be planing to 3b AI if raised, and as played looks good given that they bet it for you.
+1 I like leading here, but with two hearts on the board the CRAI is fine too. Get it all in ASAP.

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Postby CroMagnon » Aug 24 2010

CRAI is fine, but too many times I check and so does everyone else. Hate that when that happens. Especially when the turn is a heart. :(

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Postby kinnipak » Aug 24 2010

CroMagnon wrote:CRAI is fine, but too many times I check and so does everyone else. Hate that when that happens. Especially when the turn is a heart. :(

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Postby a10fouru » Aug 25 2010

Lead into them. Build the pot with a great hand. That c/r all in can usually serve to scare away good customers. Lead turn and lead river. Control the pot size OOP because you are never sure where you stand in a limped pot with top and bottom. you hand is vulnerable to a better 2 pair easily. I would be more inclined to get it in w a8 two pair than a3 for the reasons above and the outcome.
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