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[niin]

Here's the current list collected in this thread. If you have any others to add to this list, please post in that thread, or PM me Still working on the format; this is a bit hard to read in places. The table format might be a bit much. Thanks for the help.

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="50%" border="1" id="Table4"><tr><td>Site:</td><td colspan="2">PokerStars</td></tr><tr><td>Games:</td><td colspan="2">NL Hold'em, Limit Hold'em, PLO, PLO/8, Stud, Stud H/L</td></tr><tr><td>Buy-ins:</td><td colspan="2">FPP, $1+$.20 thru $1000 or more, play-money games</td></tr><tr><td>Traffic:</td><td colspan="2">40K+ players, games are quick to start</td></tr><tr><td>Game Types:</td><td colspan="2">1-, 2-, 3-, and 5-table, 9 people per table. HU, HU double-shootout (4-players), 6-handed single table</td></tr><TR><TD height="16">Structure:</TD><TD colSpan="2" height="16">1500 starting chips, 10/20 starting blinds, increase every 10 minutes (5-minutes for Turbos)</TD></TR><tr><td>Payout:</td><td colspan="2"></td></tr><tr><td></td><td>Single-table</td><td>Top 3 at 50/30/20%</td></tr><tr><td></td><td>6-handed</td><td>Top 2 at 65/35%</td><tr><td></td><td>Heads-up</td><td>Winner take all</td><tr><td></td><td>4-person HU double shootout</td><td>Winner take all</td><tr><td></td><td>2-table</td><td>Top 4 at 40/30/20/10%</td></tr><tr><td></td><td>3-table</td><td>Top 5 at 37/26/17/10/8%</td></tr><tr><td></td><td>5-table</td><td>Top 7</td><TR><TD>Blinds:</TD><TD colspan="2"></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Hold'em/Omaha</TD><TD>10/20, 15/30, 25/50, 50/100, 75/150, 100/200</TD></TR><tr></tr></table>
<TABLE id="Table1" cellSpacing="0" cellPadding="0" width="50%" border="1"><TR><TD>Site:</TD><TD colSpan="2">FullTilt</TD></TR><TR><TD>Games:</TD><TD colSpan="2">NL Hold'em, Limit Hold'em, Pot-limit Hold'em, PLO, PLO/8, Stud, Stud H/L, Razz</TD></TR><TR><TD>Buy-ins:</TD><TD colSpan="2">$4.40 for Satellite token, cash games $5+.50-$200, play-money games</TD></TR><TR><TD>Traffic:</TD><TD colSpan="2">Low to medium, 4000-8000 players during the weekend</TD></TR><TR><TD height="16">Game Types:</TD><TD colSpan="2" height="16">1- and 2- table</TD></TR><TR><TD height="16">Structure:</TD><TD colSpan="2" height="16">1500 starting chips, 15/30 NL starting blinds, 30/60 starting Limit blinds, raise every 6 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD>Payout:</TD><TD colSpan="2"></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Single-table</TD><TD>Top 3 at 50/30/20%</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>2-table</TD><TD>Top 4 at 40/30/20/10%</TD></TR><TR></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE id="Table2" cellSpacing="0" cellPadding="0" width="50%" border="1"><TR><TD>Site:</TD><TD colSpan="2">Ultimate Bet</TD></TR><TR><TD>Games:</TD><TD colSpan="2">NL Hold'em,&nbsp;PLO, PLO/8, Limit O/8, Stud, Stud H/L</TD></TR><TR><TD>Buy-ins:</TD><TD colSpan="2">$1+.10 up to $200</TD></TR><TR><TD>Traffic:</TD><TD colSpan="2">Medium to high traffic, 10K players during the weekend</TD></TR><TR><TD height="16">Game Types:</TD><TD colSpan="2" height="16">1- and&nbsp;3-tables, 10- and 6- players per table, and&nbsp;HU matches</TD></TR><TR><TD height="15">Structure:</TD><TD colSpan="2" height="15">1500 starting chips, 5/10 starting blinds, raise every 10 minutes, 5 minutes for Turbo, 2 minutes for Ultra-Turbo</TD></TR><TR><TD>Payout:</TD><TD colSpan="2"></TD></TR><TR><TD height="15"></TD><TD height="15">Single-table</TD><TD height="15">Top 3 at 50/30/20%</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>3-table</TD><TD>Top 5 at 35/25/19/13/8</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>6-handed single-table</TD><TD>Top 2 at 70/30%</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>6-handed 3-table</TD><TD>Top 3 at 50/30/20%HU</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Heads-up</TD><TD>Wiiner take all</TD></TR><TR></TR></TABLE>
<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="50%" ID="Table5"><tr><td>Site:</td><td colspan="2">Cryptologic Sites (William Hill, Interpoker, Totalbet, Caribbean Sun, et al)</td></tr><tr><td>Games:</td><td colspan="2">NL Holdem, PL Holdem, Limit Holdem, Pot Limit Omaha-8, Limit Omaha-8, Pot Limit Omaha, Limit 7-Card Stud</td></tr><tr><td>Buyins:</td><td colspan="2">1+0.20 through 500+30, in either GBP, EUR, or USD</td></tr><tr><td>Traffic:</td><td colspan="2">3000 players active during the day, 5000 during the evening and weekends</td></tr><tr><td>Game Types:</td><td colspan="2">6-handed tables, 10-handed tables, 8-player tables for 7-Card Stud</td></tr><tr><td>Payout:</td><td colspan="2"></td></tr><tr><td rowspan="2"></td><td>8 and 10-handed tables</td><td>50/30/20%</td></tr><tr><td>6-handed tables</td><td>75/25%</td></tr><tr><td>Blinds:</td><td colspan="2"></td></tr><tr><td></td><td>Holdem/Omaha/Omaha-8</td><td>7/15, 15/30, 25/50, 50/100, 100/200, 200/400, 300/600, 500/1000</td></tr></table>
<TABLE id="Table3" cellSpacing="0" cellPadding="0" width="50%" border="1"><TR><TD>Site:</TD><TD colSpan="2">PokerChamps</TD></TR><TR><TD>Games:</TD><TD colSpan="2">NL Holdem</TD></TR><TR><TD>Buyins:</TD><TD colSpan="2">1+0.20 through $55</TD></TR><TR><TD>Traffic:</TD><TD colSpan="2">New site, so traffic is still low</TD></TR><TR><TD>Game Types:</TD><TD colSpan="2">6-&nbsp;and&nbsp;10-handed tables</TD></TR><TR><TD>Payout:</TD><TD colSpan="2"></TD></TR><TR><TD rowSpan="2"></TD><TD>10-handed tables</TD><TD>50/30/20%</TD></TR><TR><TD>6-handed tables</TD><TD>70/30%</TD></TR><TR><TD>Blinds:</TD><TD colSpan="2"></TD></TR></TABLE>

[Buddy48783]

Is there away to add more information under the structure of each sit-n-go. Saying the quickness of limit increases and where they start would make Full Tilt seem like a horrible place for sit-n-go's. But their structure has many more levels than Stars and therefore is very comparable

[darvon]

Also, could we get a lot LESS info?

How about a different chart, maybe in a different thread that Ranks the sites and give consensus pros and cons.

Or how about: Best $1, Best $5, Best $20, Best $100?

[UnderARock]

The chart says Stars has $1's, but I can't find them... Did they change? Or was it a typo?

[niin]

'Stars as $1 2-table SnG's. And when I get some time I plan on reorganizing this, just been really busy lately.

[UnderARock]

Oops, didn't notice those. Thanks.

[Scala]

Also, could we get a lot LESS info?

How about a different chart, maybe in a different thread that Ranks the sites and give consensus pros and cons.

Or how about: Best $1, Best $5, Best $20, Best $100?

A great idea? Anyone?

[etude4ever]

I realize that this is my first post, but I feel this issue needs to be addressed. Full Tilt's SnG's are a bit shady. Allow me to explain myself.

I happen to know for a fact that the security on FTP is not the best. How is it that I know? Well, I tried it out for the first time a few weeks ago, after a recommendation from a friend, and partly because of the 100% bonus (which happens to be a pain and a half to work off).

I live in a house with 9 other college students with a wireless network. Most sites do not allow for any of us to play on the same table, basic security and such. Party is pretty good about collusion measures as is Stars. However, my friend and I ended up on the same SnG. Did we cheat? No. I am a firm believer in straightforward play. If I win at poker I'd rather it be legit. Pride, I guess. So we sat with our laptops back to back (the laptops were back to back, we were facing each other), and we played it straight. However, I realize that others in the same situation would not be quite so straightforward. In fact, I had a group of friends who used to collude on the Pacific SnGs (they allow people from the same IP from playing the same table (SnGs not cash). After my expressed disapproval, they no longer do this.

So for those of you who are scrupulous, let this be a warning to you. I realize some out there may use this information to their advantage, and though I may be worsening the already dire situation, I feel it necessary to warn those like myself.

I hope this helps.

[evil_roy]

FTP also has HORSE SnG's - which is a great and unique reason to play there.

[captainshiner]

You say the pay out for single-table SNG are 50/30/20, yet I'm pretty sure they are actually 50/33/17. My math is horrible (it really is), but I'm playing $10+$1 and the payout is top 3, $45/27/18.

[ciaran]

You say the pay out for single-table SNG are 50/30/20, yet I'm pretty sure they are actually 50/33/17. My math is horrible (it really is), but I'm playing $10+$1 and the payout is top 3, $45/27/18.

Standard payouts for STTs are 50%/30%/20%. So in a $10+1 9-man, first would pay 50% of 90 = $45 (you have to ignore the rake in calculating the percentage).

[captainshiner]

Standard payouts for STTs are 50%/30%/20%. So in a $10+1 9-man, first would pay 50% of 90 = $45 (you have to ignore the rake in calculating the percentage).[/quote]


I know that's 50% but the question was on the rest, but, alas, I still think I was dumb.

It is 50/30/20...not 50/33/17...how embarrassing!

[ciaran]

You weren't kidding about the horrible math, were you?

27/90 =.3
18/90 =.2

[captainshiner]

You weren't kidding about the horrible math, were you?

27/90 =.3
18/90 =.2

Haha..SEE??