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[taz115]

Been playing these quite a bit lately trying to slowly build a roll while taking the odd shot at MTTs here and there.

I was curious as to how good or bad I was doing at these, feels like I was doing pretty well, especially lately.

Do any of you play a lot of these? Anyone have an opinion on what a good ROI is in these? I know STTs might(?) be somewhere around 20% and for MTTs 50-100% is good so do we split the difference for 45ers?

Here are my stats from the past year playing mostly $3, $6 and some $12's, all turbos. (I know limited sample but I don't play often).

Number: 131
Buy-ins: $721.75
Winnings: $952
ITM %: 21% - (16% of field is paid)
ABI: $5.5
ROI: 32%

32% is not bad I suppose, but it seems like it should be higher. Opinions?

[SikhStallion]

you're sample is really small. You will be able to determine your own winrate and bankroll requirements after about 1k games IMO. At best right now I'd say 19-25% would be an accurate assessment.

[taz115]

I know my smaple is too small to accurately project my own ROI. Was more wondering what others thought was an attainable ROI for someone who is a significant winner at this format would be. I think thats what you were trying to estimate with your 20-25% number. Was hoping it was higher... tough to grind out a BR these days if you can't play tons of hands blah.

[the_hawk]

My guess (and it is only a guess) that your 32% would be really really good over a decent sample. So yah, it's likely to be downhill rather than up from here

[SikhStallion]

you gotta 20-40 table like the rest of sng pros do. Only way to make monies IMO

[taz115]

you gotta 20-40 table like the rest of sng pros do. Only way to make monies IMO

Boo to that.. I'm an old schooler and 4 tables is what I prefer to play. I can play up to 6 before I lose my mind though but usually 4 table. Think I'll just keep plugging away at the micro 45 mans and take shots at $10 and $20 MTTs with my profits until I hit a deep one.

[taz115]

you gotta 20-40 table like the rest of sng pros do. Only way to make monies IMO

My wife was playing you last night in a $16 - 18 man SNG while I was railing. You busted off the FT and she ended up winning

[Foux Du Fafa]

Was more wondering what others thought was an attainable ROI for someone who is a significant winner at this format would be.

I went through a phase of only playing $11 18/27 (occasional 45) player SNG's on stars. My ROI is a little over 70% from 662 games. I generally only played up to 4 at once, with 3 being my most profitable number. I think it's very important to be able to focus, and get a good feel for a table, the shorter it gets. MTT's don't matter so much. I find I can multi-table a lot more because you're nearly always playing at full tables.

[jrspm]

Anything over 30% is good.

I used to play tons of these (>1k in total) at the $12 and $27 level, great way to build a roll, and the player base always seems to be healthy.

You really should play more tables though. Much of your play in these will be push/fold, so I don't see any reason why you couldn't get to 8 or 12 with a little practice.