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[Damien]

???

Is firing another barrel spewy?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 2.25 Tournament, 20/40 Blinds (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t1615)
SB (t2925)
BB (t1470)
UTG (t3525)
UTG+1 (t1620)
MP1 (t1290)
Hero (MP2) (t1175)
CO (t1330)

Hero's M: 19.58

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with ,
3 folds, Hero bets t120, CO calls t120, 1 fold, SB calls t100, 1 fold

Flop: (t400) , , (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t260, CO calls t260, SB calls t260

Turn: (t1180) (3 players)
SB checks, Hero ?

[chrisjp]

I'm not firing another barrel. A spade is bad enough, and an Ace clinches it. Against weaker opposition the Ace is bad. And someone could easily have two spades. You can still be ahead but I'm not putting any more chips into this one.

Chris

[Damien]

Cool. I checked and the turn checked around. I'm at work now and have the HH at home. The River was another Ace, I'll post it later on.

[chrisjp]

If SB checks the river I check. If SB bets I have a tough decision. If it goes ck ck, bet by CO and then SB folds I'll call probably.

Chris

[Damien]

Well then... you've got a tough decision. I've got t795 on the River:

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 2.25 Tournament, 20/40 Blinds (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t1615)
SB (t2925)
BB (t1470)
UTG (t3525)
UTG+1 (t1620)
MP1 (t1290)
Hero (MP2) (t1175)
CO (t1330)

Hero's M: 19.58

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with ,
3 folds, Hero bets t120, CO calls t120, 1 fold, SB calls t100, 1 fold

Flop: (t400) , , (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t260, CO calls t260, SB calls t260

Turn: (t1180) (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

River: (t1180) (3 players)
SB bets t1180, Hero ?

[chrisjp]

You're getting 5/2 here, don't think that CO is a problem. You will have 20BBs remaining if you fold. Tough choice. Why did he bet so much? I have no idea what goes through villain's thought processes at these stakes, if anything.

He had to precisely move the slider or whatever to make this bet. It's more than either of you have. Could be he's mad because he didn't get to c/r you guys all in on the turn.

Flush got there, 22 and TT already were there, A was there, straight draw missed, betting a pocket pair as a bluff? Or for value as he thinks he has the best hand?

IDK. Really don't. Leaning to a fold I guess. Why didn't he just move the slider over and push?

I fold. Hope I don't regret this. I think he has a set.

Chris

ps. I might call If I have any indication this guy should be playing lower stakes.

My post here should be nominated for the wishy-washy Hall of Fame.

[Zenjo]

Villian just bets the pot on the river. I see weaker players pot bet a ton at FT. 80% of the time it means "I have (what I think is) a strong hand". They're not thinking about your range or what bet size you might call. Just good hand=big bet.

I would say the chances of you being good on the river are very slim. The SB is highly unlikely to be bluffing into 2 people on that board. It's a definate fold.

If it was just the 2 of you left in the pot then a bluff is more likely, and maybe you could make a crying call. I'd still fold as you're in bad shape against his range and you still have enough chips left to win.

[Damien]

He had to precisely move the slider or whatever to make this bet.

Like Zenjo said, he just hit the pot button. No trickery or precision involved. I called... in retrospect I think that this is a clear fold. At the time, I just thought that he was taking a stab on the river, I didn't put him on any particular hand, I just figured he thought that he would easily get us to fold with any hand not containing an Ace. But now I think that he liked his hand on the turn, intended to C/R, and then really liked his hand on the River and bet pot. I should have laid this down, just didn't think he had me beat at the time. Maybe he had JJ or 99 or something .

He flipped over

[kinnipak]

I have no idea what goes through villain's thought processes at these stakes, if anything.

You have summed up my entire poker career in one simple sentence.

[jameseigenmann]

If you check-raise turn your QQ has turned into a bluff, and if not, then bet the flop. Also a cbet on the the flop and a c/r on the turn looks strong.