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AJ in EP

Postby Damien » Apr 22 2010

2nd Hand of a 27 man ($2)

Pre-flop: I've heard a lot of people crapping on AJ recently. Should I fold this? Normally, it should be at the bottom of UTGs range, but he did just limp, which makes me suspect that he may be a donkey who doesn't even know anything about position. Seems to be one of these guys in the micros that says "oooh, I have a couple of suited 2 gappers and one of them is a face card, let me throw a bet in there and see if I can hit a flop". You see LOTS of that type of thing in the micros. With that in mind, what do you do on the flop. I try an iso-raise, which as I should have known works very poorly in EP but calling could've made it go even more multiway, and i do like being the aggresor.

Flop: Now, TPTK is usually good on the flop in the micros against one opponent, but 2? Is this a clear fold? They could have draws or a weaker Jack...

Full Tilt Poker $2 + $0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players - View hand 654223
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN: t1470 M = 32.67
SB: t1470 M = 32.67
BB: t1500 M = 33.33
UTG: t1500 M = 33.33
Hero (UTG+1): t1500 M = 33.33
UTG+2: t1470 M = 32.67
MP1: t1470 M = 32.67
MP2: t1470 M = 32.67
CO: t1650 M = 36.67

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is UTG+1 with J :diamond: A :club:
UTG calls t30, Hero raises to t120, 1 fold, MP1 calls t120, MP2 calls t120, 3 folds, BB calls t90, 1 fold

Flop: (t525) J :heart: 4 :heart: 8 :club: (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t275, MP1 raises to t1350 all in, MP2 folds, BB raises to t1380 all in, Hero ?
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Postby chrisjp » Apr 23 2010

I fold this preflop. Too early to be playing this up front after a limper.

As played I don't know at these levels. I'd call against either one of them alone but here I'd probably fold. They both could have draws knowing this crowd but I don't think TPTK is good enough here.

Don't really know at these buy ins. Maybe it is a call. Like you said a draw or weaker Jack or who knows. I'd take the advice of others that play at these stakes.

I'm folding at $27 or higher.

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Postby leofric » Apr 24 2010

chrisjp wrote:I fold this preflop. Too early to be playing this up front after a limper.
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+1

If you really have to raise then this is too small anyway isn't it? Given the number of players behind I'd probably raise to 180.

I'm not sure about this level but at $10 - $20 buyins I'm folding on the flop all the time. Not to say that I haven't regretted it sometimes when I see JT against a couple of hearts but even then there's 12 cards you don't want to see.
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Postby Radford » Apr 24 2010

chrisjp wrote:I fold this preflop. Too early to be playing this up front after a limper


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Postby Damien » Apr 25 2010

I fold this preflop. Too early to be playing this up front after a limper.


In UTG+1, what hands are you playing to a UTG flat (aside from pocket pairs)? Is your range AQo+? And how do you play them? Are you always raising or do you ever flat - again, I'm not talking about PPs where we can set mine.
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Postby leofric » Apr 27 2010

Damien wrote:
I fold this preflop. Too early to be playing this up front after a limper.


In UTG+1, what hands are you playing to a UTG flat (aside from pocket pairs)? Is your range AQo+? And how do you play them? Are you always raising or do you ever flat - again, I'm not talking about PPs where we can set mine.


This early in the blind structure I'd be playing supernitty so I doubt AQ is a hand I want to continue with. I might just flat call with AK although in a multiway pot you'd have to play very carefully if you hit top pair.

I'm probably only raising QQ+ although I can see a point in calling with these hands as well. Some aggro donk tries to squeeze and............ (usually outdraws you!)
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Postby Radford » Apr 27 2010

I'm definetly raising with AK. Flat calling with AK is too weak for my taste.
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Postby SikhStallion » May 02 2010

As played I would fold the flop. But I think you should be folding this hand preflop.
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Postby jameseigenmann » Jun 24 2010

If its a tight game, then your playing than its a loser depending on position,i try and play just the top hands depending on position stack etc. both those hands have caused me a world of hurt
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Postby darvon » Nov 13 2010

Radford wrote:
chrisjp wrote:I fold this preflop. Too early to be playing this up front after a limper


+2


+3.

But after the flop, the question is you have too many people behind you. You have TP, and it's a J, I might have raised for a little less, maybe 3x to see if they call / raise and I would probably be folding to a raise call, but not a call then raise. But when you hit 2 pushes I would be gone.
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