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One million hands in a year

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Postby Misunderstud » Dec 02 2008

Llanlad wrote:
***MODS*** This has turned into a thread hijack with no relevance to the forum it's posted in. (Sorry, Llanlad.) Can you split off everything from my 1st post onwards and put it somewhere more appropriate, please?

Ive highjacked many a thread in my time .. so i cant complain much really :D


No, I didn't think you would :), but you might get some decent demon-busting advice were Hawk and I not playing Einstein in the road.
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Postby toronexti » Dec 02 2008

2.8 hands per 1 VPP on avg at .5/1 NL
2 hands per 1 VPP on avg at 1/2 NL

Already SN, no chance of getting SNE.

Earn rate at .5/1 = $4/100
Earn rate at 1/2 = $4/100

HR at .5/1 2bb/100 (assuming 19 tabling = 1.2k hands): $48
HR at 1/2 1bb/100 (assuming 15 tabling = 1k hands): $40

Extra $$ earned through VPPs (assuming each VPP is worth $0.056 getting the $4k bonuses):
Bonus HR at .5/1: 428.5 VPP earned = $24
Bonus HR at 1/2: 500 VPP earned = $28

If I include milestone bonuses I'd get an addtional $2k for 200k VPP. That is 560k hands at .5/1 and 400k hands at 1/2. However, if I play 1/2 I'd probably reach the 300k milestone which would be an additional $3k.

Additions to HR from milestones:
.5/1 = $4.29 @ 200k vpp, $0 @ 300k vpp
1/2 = $5 @ 200k vpp, $8.33 for reaching 300k VPP

Total rates combined:
.5/1 = $76.29
1/2 = $76.33

If I assume a 1.5bb/100 rate at 1/2:
1/2: $96.33

Playing 600 hours/year (11.5 hours/week):
.5/1 = $45,774
1/2 (@ 1bb/100): $45,798
1/2 (@ 1.5bb/100): $57,798

Amount of $$ given up by playing .5/1: $24 to $12,024

Playing 1,000 hours/year (19.2 hours/week):
.5/1 = $76,290
1/2 (@ 1bb/100) = $76,330
1/2 (@ 1.5bb/100) = $96,330

Amount of $$ given up for playing at .5/1: $40 to $20,040

If I actually play 1k hours in a year I'd actually get some more milestone bonuses.

Recalculated bonuses for 1k hours/year:
$9k at .5/1 playing 1.2 million hands: $9/hour
$14k at 1/2 playing 1 million hands: $14/hour

So actual 1k hours/year totals are:
.5/1 = $81/hour = 81k/year
1/2 (@ 1bb/100) = 82/hour = 82k/year
1/2 (@ 1.5bb/100) = 102/hour = 102k/year

Amount given up by playing .5/1 = $1k - $21k

Should I move up to 1/2?

All of this also ignores that after a while I'd increase # of tables at 1/2 such that after x amount of time # of tables at 1/2 would = # of tables at .5/1.

To get to SNE:
.5/1: 2,333 hours/year = 44.8 hours/week = 6.4 hours/day
1/2 (15 tabling): 2,000 hours/year = 38.46 hours/week = 5.5 hours/day
1/2 (19 tabling): 1,667 hours/year = 32 hours/week = 4.5 hours/day
1/2 (24 tabling, 1.5k/hour): 1,333 hours/year = 25.6 hours/week = 3.66 hrs/day

This is just for fun now:
Yearly earn for someone playing 40 hours/week 24 tabling at 1/2NL:
Hours played: 2,080
Hands played: 3,120,000
VPP earned: 1,560,000
FPP earned (this is actually kinda tough) on the first 1mil vpp the multiplier is 3.5 (assuming you start at SN), on the rest the multiplier is 5.

So total FPP earned is: 3,500,000 + 2,800,000 = 6.3 million

Value of FPP = $100,800

Milestone bonuses: $58,000 (if I added right)

Total of bonuses: $158,800

Assumed earn rates:
.5bb/100 = $30/hour = $62,400 + bonuses = $221,200
1bb/100 = $60/hour = $124,800 + bonuses = $283,600
1.5bb/100 = $90/hour = $187,200 + bonuses = $346,000
2bb/100 = $120/hour = $249,600 + bonuses = $408,400
2.5bb/100 = $150/hour = $312,000 + bonuses = $470,800
3bb/100 = $180/hour = $374,400 + bonuses = $533,200
3.5bb/100 = $210/hour = $436,800 + bonuses = $595,600

That seems reasonable.
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