ITH Poker Forum

[Misunderstud]

I think the two, frustration/fear, are related. People get frustrated when things don't go their way and part of what fuels the frustration is a fear that not only are things not going their way at the moment, things may continue to not go their way.

Yes, that's true. Extrapolation of results (good or bad) is a most seductive and misleading temptation which can easily lead to a fear of going broke (or to expectations of becoming a millionaire). But experience (understanding) quickly reveals that extrapolation is a complete waste of time. (Even so, I do still get a bit antsy sometimes )

[the_hawk]

But anyway, those scenarios aren't really relevant to the majority of online poker-forum members to whom the discussion is addressed. We can just log off when we get fed up - you can't do that at a WSOP table.

Or, as I was suggesting above with "immediate toys out of pram", we can drop a booming f-bomb (to no-one in particular, although Ms.Hawk sometimes gets a bit bent-out-of-shape by it) and move on straight away.

[chrisjp]

Nice thread. I've sure observed a lot of tilters live. Very revealing about the nature of humans.

I am not subject to tilt. Lucky me. I tilted one time in my entire life, back in the late 1980s. I distinctly remember the occasion. Amazing.

I was playing back at the old MGM Grand where Bally's is now in a 5-10 7 stud game. I went on a horrendous losing streak. Very unlucky. I was tired. I was frustrated and mad. A hand came up. I hit a gut shot straight in a hand that I shouldn't have played...and lost to a flush.

Wow, I quit the game. I realized what was going on. There is always tomorrow. My tilt was gone. It has never returned. I am so lucky!

Chris

[Llanlad]

Yeah i can understand the theory .. throwing your toys out the pram is fine ... might as well have a little strop now and again ....better out than in i suppose .

But what happens if you take it to another level and start wrecking the pram ?

I doubt i will ever beat tilt properly .. might supress it somewhat ... but its not in my nature to just ignore things if they keep going wrong ....

Poker suits some peoples personality more so than others i reckon ... people that dont tilt or rarely tilt should be thankfull they have the right personality ..

Ive been reading Zen lately .. and there was one part about certain competitive traits that dont suit a poker player ..

Ive grown up playing sports, either team or individual sports and im very competitve ... If things started to go wrong .. then id push as hard as i could get the better of a opponent ... at least there was somehting i could do to buck the trend so to speak ...

But ive realised ive bought that way of thinking into poker .. and it just dont work ... sometimes no matter what you do .. you aint going to win ... you cant buck that trend ... the more you try .. the more mistakes you make ...and frustration kicks in big style ..

Its like you have to accept defeat sometimes ... which goes totally against my thinking when i was playing sports etc ...

Suggesting someone accepting defeat is actually a good thing seems totally wrong IMO ..

[the_hawk]

I doubt i will ever beat tilt properly .. might supress it somewhat ... but its not in my nature to just ignore things if they keep going wrong ....

Llan, please make sure you never beat tilt (or at least ranting). ITH would be a much less entertaining place if you did.

[chrisjp]

But see poker is not about winning or losing a hand or a session. It is about making good decisions. If you make good decisions you will be a long term winner. That's all you need to know. Along with bankroll management. And the desire to improve and to have some fun along the way.

The only time I'm bummed is when I make a poor decision. But I don't let that affect my play.

That's it for me. Great Game in proper perspective.

Chris