ITH Poker Forum

[simmo5050]

I really like most of Miller et al's stuff. Has anyone here who is a 6max NL cash player, or anyone who primarily plays NL cash games actually got / read their newest e-book? if so, is it worth the $99?

I love reading decent poker books but there are not that many good ones for NL cash and I have seen and heard suspiciously little since the publication / release of this book although I did get sent a section in a promo-email, which looked fine.

simmo

[jeffnc]

Is it worth it? From the point of view of relative cost to other poker books, no. This probably goes without saying, but it costs 3 times as much as other poker books. Whether you think the "e" part makes it more or less valuable is up to yo.

From the point of view of value to you in terms of winning, probably yes. But then I think this is true of all good poker books. ITH was worth far more to me than its asking price, which still would have been true at $100 for that book.

Is it good? Yes, but you have to understand that it deals with a game that is pretty tough. To beat it, you have to think outside the box a little (beyond pot odds, etc.) I find the techniques difficult to implement for my style, but I'm learning.

I do feel that if you master the ideas in this book, and adapt your strategy to the play at the table (in other words, you are good at other styles and strategies as well, and switch to them or blend them in as conditions dictate), you'll be a truly good poker player.

Maybe not the answer you were looking for, but $1/2 online 6 max against other players who are also thinking at the same level as you might not be the game you were hoping for either!

The book has quality information and I recommend it. You won't find this kind of information (strategy) in any other poker book I'm aware of.

Disclaimer 1: I'm speaking cognitively here - I haven't actually played this strategy at this level enough to know if I'd win with it long term, or even if I'm implementing it correctly.

Disclaimer 2: I'm friends with one of the authors, but get no benefit of any kind regardless of who buys this book.

[simmo5050]

Thanks for the info, Jeff.

I'm nowhere near ready for 6max never mind $1/$2 games BUT I have found everything by Miller and any of the books he's co-written to be pretty interesting.

As regards the price, I was more interested in whether this book is going to make me a better poker player. In common with David 'LATB' Tuchman, if I gain sthg new from a poker book or see things in a different way, then, over a lifetime, any such book should pay for iteslelf many times over.

I do not want to spend $100 if it is, for any reason, a poor book.

Sadly, in retrospect it was a very -ev to NOT take advantage of the massive promo offer they. What was I thinking of?

Thanks

simmo

[jeffnc]

I'm sure it would make you a better player. It's not fluff.

The title of the book is kind of misleading. It sounds like a Small Stakes version of Miller's limit book (intentional, I'm sure, to get some repeat business), but it's not the same sort of strategy. Small Stakes Holdem was about beating weak limit players. SSNLH is about beating pretty good players online.

Furthermore it's really supposed to be Volume 2 of Professional No Limit Holdem. As they got feedback, they realized online 6-max games was desirable from an audience point of view. Anyway, it is a continuation of Volume 1, because it adds bluffing and stealing to your game, which is important in NL, at least against good players.

[simmo5050]

I got this book recently and I'm really pleased. Once I get it printed out, I'll be reading it again and again as I'm not at all a fn of such new technology as e-books.

i'm really pleased with the section on BR management nd many of the ideas are ideas I've been thinking about recently so I'm pleased to perhaps be on the right track.

I'm so glad that this book doesn't seem to be in the hands of everyone as it is will be well worth it's price for any player who wants to improve.

Then again, for anyone who criticises the Harrington cash books, I'd say that the more I read other stuff, the more it seems to convince me that, actually, the HoCash books do give players more than enough to succeed in most games anyway if you can apply it.

simmo

[jeffnc]

The Harrington books, and similar strategies, do give you enough to win in most low stakes games. But against some players in some games you will have the frustating feeling that you're leaving money on the table. This book addresses a lot of that - mostly stealing.

By the way, if you can get the book printed off on paper, you can get it spiral bound at an office supply store for about 4 bucks, with front and back protective covers. In some ways it's better than a regular bound book because it lays flat for reading at a table.

[Doc T River]

This book is now available in traditional format of an already printed book.