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[therivierakid]

I'm seriously contemplating moving up to 2/4...

I have over $1800 in my BR and I'm playing a mix of 1/2, 0.5/1; FR and SH.

I realise 1800 would give me about 450BB at 2/4 which is probably borderline for playing SH. I'd play a mixture of 0.5/1, 1/2 and 2/4 and would probably err on the side of caution when it came to table selection at 2/4.

I was originally thinking of waiting till I had $2k but I'm keen to move up whilst the tables are still very fishy (Cake).

What do you reckon?

[Misunderstud]

Well, it's not like you're moving house, is it?

One of two things is going to happen: you'll win or you'll lose. If you can live with the latter, and with beating a retreat if necessary, set a stop loss for the limit and go for it. If you feel you're being outplayed, get off the table pronto.

The attitude I've adopted to moving is that I'm an x/y player who occasionally visits x+1/y+1 and x-1/y-1. Over time, my x+1/y+1 visits become more frequent until eventually x+1/y+1 becomes my x/y. And so it goes on.

Personally I'd be happy enough at FR with 450 BB, not so SH - but my experience there is both limited and painful.

[Willem]

Why not play occasionally at $2/$4 when you feel like you are playing well and you can find a good table. If you want, you can set a stop loss of 20BB or so.

Also, leave the table when there is 1 or 2 LAG's since these guys increase the variance of the table. High variance is something you might want to avoid when you move up.

[cmd0518]

I'd stick with 1/2 until youre confident you can be a winning player at 2/4. It might seem like a small jump in stakes, but the players are much stronger at 2/4.

[ResumeMan]

TRK, you've been grinding away at the micro stakes for about 236 years now. Having read your posts, I'm quite certain that with a modest adjustment period you will easily be a winning 2/4 player. Don't fear the unknown!

As alluded to upthread, I would recommend that you mentally prepare yourself for the larger stakes, then go scope out a few tables when you're feeling sharp. If you can find a table or two that looks good, dive in. See how it goes. I think you'll like your new winrate

But if you find yourself uncomfortable with the numbers, or can't find a table that looks good -- or you find a table that looks good but turns out to be tough, go swimming in 1/2 for that session and try again later

I would also absolutely recommend that you start out with FR games for a couple hundred to a thousand hands while you adjust. Once you're comfortable with the level of competition and the larger numbers, I bet you'll move to SH at the higher stakes with little additional adjustment.

I think your bankroll is way more than you need to at least experiment. Go for it!!!

[MacTaiga]

I made the switch from 1/2 to 2/4 a while back when I worked out the bonus clearing rates were so much better on the 2/4 tables, there was a period of adjustment but I sort of dipped my toe in by having my normal 1/2 tables open but swapped in one at the higher limits.

Over time I spent less time at the 1/2's as my comfort level grew, now I occaisionally have a 1/2 table open and even more rarely venture up to 3/6. My bankroll is only slightly bigger than yours (normally just over $2k, though healthier this month) and I cash out anything over that when it gets to a decent number. It seems a reasonable amount but I play FR tables.

I've had a couple of brutal downswings, fortunately both times after a huge rush so I've avoided dropping back down but I think setting yourself limits beforehand on when you'd retreat would be a smart plan. It's much easier to build your bankroll back up (even down a level) when you at least still have some!

Good Luck.

[the_hawk]

So long as you're mentally ready (your BR is fine) to handle downturns of a monetarily larger size than before, you will have no probs at 2/4. I'd forget SH for a goodly while though.

[Llanlad]

So long as you're mentally ready (your BR is fine) to handle downturns of a monetarily larger size than before, you will have no probs at 2/4. I'd forget SH for a goodly while though.

What would a Chelsea fan know about proper bankroll management ??

[Willem]

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What would a Chelsea fan know about proper bankroll management ??

This stuff runs deep, doesn't it.

[Llanlad]

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What would a Chelsea fan know about proper bankroll management ??

This stuff runs deep, doesn't it.

This month .. its going to get a whole lot deeper

[MacTaiga]

Back to the original poster, did you go for it? Success?

[the_hawk]

What would a Chelsea fan know about proper bankroll management ??

This one passed me by somehow...

You're actually right. In this case, the sort of fan that decimates his BR to follow his team (season ticket + Moscow trip within a few days of each other) - as opposed to the sort of fan who sits in his armchair, or the pub...

(To everyone else - sorry for the hijack. Llan - keep the heckling in our mutual heckling thread please. )

[randycouture]

Go chelsea!!

[doubleup]

I made the switch from 1/2 to 2/4 a while back when I worked out the bonus clearing rates were so much better on the 2/4 tables, there was a period of adjustment but I sort of dipped my toe in by having my normal 1/2 tables open but swapped in one at the higher limits.

Over time I spent less time at the 1/2's as my comfort level grew, now I occaisionally have a 1/2 table open and even more rarely venture up to 3/6. My bankroll is only slightly bigger than yours (normally just over $2k, though healthier this month) and I cash out anything over that when it gets to a decent number. It seems a reasonable amount but I play FR tables.

I've had a couple of brutal downswings, fortunately both times after a huge rush so I've avoided dropping back down but I think setting yourself limits beforehand on when you'd retreat would be a smart plan. It's much easier to build your bankroll back up (even down a level) when you at least still have some!

Good Luck.

I think that being on 1 table of the higher limit and 2 or so of the limit you're currently at is good advice. I play NL and am dipping into 50NL, but play 2 or 3 25NL tables at the same time. I always keep the higher limit window in the same position on my monitor so I know which is which. Good luck moving up limits!

[egarevel]

The rule is that if you are willing to move down, you only need 300 big bets in limit holdem. 500 big bets if you are not willing to move down after a losing streak.

With 450 big bets, you can easily take a shot so long as you move back down if you don't come out winning right off the bat.