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[Paulie]

How many buyins are sufficient for a winning player on heads-up SNGs? I've just started playing them and I'm not sure how wild the variance can get in them yet.

[El Yortle]

(My first post in a while. Only just remembered my password... )

I've recently been playing $20+2 Heads-up SNG's and have a reasonable profit from it.

My plan is to get to 20 x (Buy-In+Rake) before I move to $50+5. I could do this now by moving money between different accounts, but I'm planning to play through it to increase my heads-up experience.

Heads-up can be quite swingy after all.

If anyone else has any thoughts on the subject, I'd be interested to hear it.

Cheers,

El Yortle

[Kjell201]

You should wait for dbiriders response. He's played quite a few of them (up to 1000$ lvl)

[dbirider]

You should wait for dbiriders response. He's played quite a few of them (up to 1000$ lvl)

Yeah I pretty much played these exclusivly for a year. I don't even remember my system for bankroll management when I first started. I think it was 10 buy in's or something small like that. I busted my account twice with this system. Once at the $5 heads up sit&go's and then once when the 8+ tabling psycho gamer ElkY took most of my $2500 account at $200 heads up sit&go's. I was too stubborn to move down Every time I called he had a hand . I had $500 I cashed out that I used to get me started again so it wasnt the end of the world.

I'm sick of them now and don't play them any more. But after all my experiences, I personally would play with 20 entries at anything below $100, 30 at $100, 40 at $200, and 50 at anything higher. I do it this way because the games get harder as you go higher and i'm willing to take more of a risk to make money when the stakes aren't that big. If I was really broke and losing $500 would kill me i'd play $10 sit&go's. It all depends. I guess a good formula if you never want to go broke would be; 40-50 buyins for the level you are at and go down a level if you drop to 20-30 buyins. This way the short term swings shouldnt bother you at all knowing you have alot of padding...

By the way, I played $1000 sit&go's with less then a $20,000 roll at the time. I only did it if i had a really good week and would stop of I lost one or two. I was hoping to win a few of these and never look back. I think I broke even after around 10 total 1k's. I'm always unlucky . Fischman donked me in a 1k s&g

okerStars Game #1888373049: Tournament #8924306, Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level IV (50/100) - 2005/06/12 - 23:21:43 (ET)
Table '8924306 1' One on One Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: dbirider16 (1325 in chips)
Seat 2: emptyseat88 (1675 in chips)
emptyseat88: posts small blind 50
dbirider16: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
emptyseat88: raises 1575 to 1675 and is all-in
dbirider16: calls 1225 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [5s 3h Qh]
*** TURN *** [5s 3h Qh] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [5s 3h Qh 9h] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dbirider16: shows [Ks As] (a pair of Fives)
emptyseat88: shows [Qs Kh] (a flush, King high)
emptyseat88 collected 2650 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2650 | Rake 0
Board [5s 3h Qh 9h 5h]
Seat 1: dbirider16 (big blind) showed [Ks As] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 2: emptyseat88 (button) (small blind) showed [Qs Kh] and won (2650) with a flush, King high

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[jameseigenmann]

I once followed Chris Ferguson bankroll strategy where there is no to buy-in to a cash game for no more than 5% of your bankroll and into a tournament for no more than 2%. But I am starting to play more heads-up sit and gos.

But cashing 50% is pretty good and to win 50% is a very difficult task like getting blood into a stone

[Damien]

like getting blood into a stone

Oh, those silly Californians...