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[clabbers]

PokerStars Game #20278040242: Tournament #200800010, $200+$15 Razz Limit - Level II (50/100) - 2008/09/09 17:13:22 ET
Table '200800010 144' 8-max
Seat 1: gibbbins (3280 in chips)
Seat 2: TerpGirl (4835 in chips)
Seat 3: seraph724 (3060 in chips)
Seat 4: clabbers (2585 in chips)
Seat 5: AlDorado (1765 in chips)
Seat 6: skinsiu13 (3055 in chips)
Seat 7: Waters81 (2730 in chips)
Seat 8: Fjubuu (3120 in chips)
gibbbins: posts the ante 5
TerpGirl: posts the ante 5
seraph724: posts the ante 5
clabbers: posts the ante 5
AlDorado: posts the ante 5
skinsiu13: posts the ante 5
Waters81: posts the ante 5
Fjubuu: posts the ante 5
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to gibbbins [2h]
Dealt to TerpGirl [8h]
Dealt to seraph724 [7c]
Dealt to clabbers [8c Ac 5c]
Dealt to AlDorado [2s]
Dealt to skinsiu13 [Ad]
Dealt to Waters81 [As]
Dealt to Fjubuu [9d]
Fjubuu: brings in for 15
gibbbins: folds
TerpGirl: folds
seraph724: folds
clabbers: raises 35 to 50
AlDorado: calls 50
skinsiu13: raises 50 to 100
Waters81: folds
Fjubuu: folds
clabbers: calls 50
AlDorado: calls 50
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to clabbers [8c Ac 5c] [Td]
Dealt to AlDorado [2s] [9h]
Dealt to skinsiu13 [Ad] [Kc]
AlDorado: bets 50
skinsiu13: calls 50
clabbers: calls 50
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to clabbers [8c Ac 5c Td] [4h]
Dealt to AlDorado [2s 9h] [Kh]
Dealt to skinsiu13 [Ad Kc] [Th]
clabbers: bets 100
AlDorado: calls 100
skinsiu13: calls 100
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to clabbers [8c Ac 5c Td 4h] [Qd]
Dealt to AlDorado [2s 9h Kh] [7s]
Dealt to skinsiu13 [Ad Kc Th] [Qs]
clabbers: checks
AlDorado: bets 100
skinsiu13: folds
clabbers: calls 100
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to clabbers [8c Ac 5c Td 4h Qd] [Ts]
clabbers: checks
AlDorado: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
clabbers: shows [8c Ac 5c Td 4h Qd Ts] (Lo: T,8,5,4,A)
AlDorado: shows [Ah 5d 2s 9h Kh 7s Qc] (Lo: 9,7,5,2,A)
AlDorado collected 1005 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1005 | Rake 0
Seat 1: gibbbins folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 2: TerpGirl folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 3: seraph724 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 4: clabbers showed [8c Ac 5c Td 4h Qd Ts] and lost with Lo: T,8,5,4,A
Seat 5: AlDorado showed [Ah 5d 2s 9h Kh 7s Qc] and won (1005) with Lo: 9,7,5,2,A
Seat 6: skinsiu13 folded on the 6th Street
Seat 7: Waters81 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Fjubuu folded on the 3rd Street



With 36% winning chances, AlDorado is correct to call 5th and take his chances on sucking out. Catching the seven while I bricked made him a 3-1 favorite, and his 9 held up. When the pot is raised preflop, chasing becomes more attractive with reasonable hands

[nsidestrate]

4th street is where the decision point is, I would think. By all rational measures, you are drawing to a Ten and he is drawing to a Nine. which makes you a 2:1 dog. I think I chase too often in Razz, but given that it is a relatively large pot, maybe that is the only choice here. Also, you have to figure that skinsu is pretty smooth, even though he bricked pretty bad on 4th.

Would you have folded on the river?

[clabbers]

Giving skinsiu13 a 36 down, I'm 25% to win a 3 way pot, 33% to win heads up if he folds. Getting 6-1 seems to make it a clear call. Even without preflop raise it would still be marginal, 50 to win 205.

[jmbreslin]

4th street is where the decision point is, I would think. By all rational measures, you are drawing to a Ten and he is drawing to a Nine. which makes you a 2:1 dog. I think I chase too often in Razz, but given that it is a relatively large pot, maybe that is the only choice here.

Definitely a tough spot. There are lots of live cards out there but even if Hero completes his 10 draw on 5th, AlDorado will have two more cards to complete his 9. Hero basically has to complete his hand on 5th while AlDorado bricks on the next 3 streets, or Hero has to hit two of his live cards to end up with an 8-high. That's the problem with calling the one more bet - even if you improve on 5th, you're still not in great shape.

[otterRIVER]

Noticed a lot of your hand posts. Thanks for the good stuff!