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PLO10$- strange bet - got BigFlush but ugly board

Postby batwoman » Mar 02 2010

$0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players

Stacks:
UTG stianjac ($17.63)
UTG+1 tomasz6 ($8.06)
CO Nixsta26 ($9.91)
BTN Blackhawk3492 ($11.55)
SB Rahat666 ($9.31)
BB Hero ($10.59)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB :Qc :Kd :Qd :Kh
stianjac raises to $0.35, 1 fold, Nixsta26 calls $0.35, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: :9d :Ad :9s ($1.10, 3 players)
Hero checks, stianjac checks, Nixsta26 checks

Turn: :3c ($1.10, 3 players)
Hero bets $0.50, stianjac calls $0.50, Nixsta26 calls $0.50

River: :3d ($2.60, 3 players)
Hero checks, stianjac checks, Nixsta26 bets $2.60, Hero folds ???
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Postby Bullajami » Mar 02 2010

I would not call with a flush here.
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Postby MaxStPolish » Mar 02 2010

i would think about a call here just based on the line you took in the hand.

You line reeks of weakness. If nixsta were to ever utilize his position on a float, this would be it.. With the board being double paired, it actually severely reduces the odds of playing against a boat.

I'm not saying you snap call this all the time, but in this particular situation, I'm inclined to look it up with the nut flush.

Edit: The above is the higher level thought on the hand. I stlil heavily think about looking this up still....but with man 10PLO opponents, they wlll be potting their trips or lower flush for some awkward reason, more than thinking they are behind and trying a float play.
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Postby tcuccia » Jun 29 2010

If this was heads up it would be an easier call, but with the other player left I think you can fold here
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Postby Bouma » Jun 29 2010

I would not bet this at the turn, because this is exactly what happens...
You don't want the pot to explode here.

On the river it depends on your opponents. As mentioned those PLO10 guys might not be that strong, but who knows.
Normally I would fold, but if you think they pot trips or other hands you could beat, call it.
I don't think your opponent is floating though, and he could well be slow-playing like he did at NLHE before he started playing PLO...
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Postby J7 » Jul 19 2010

It does not look like the villain is bluffing, since there are hardly any missed draws, and not many people straight-up float the turn in multiway pots. He is probably value betting, and since most villains would check behind lower flushes or bet less to get calls from bare nines and stuff, I would think he is full and fold. I might call a smaller bet, or if it was heads-up.
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Postby safesteps » Jul 31 2010

MaxStPolish wrote:With the board being double paired, it actually severely reduces the odds of playing against a boat.


This is a key point. I think there arent many holdings in his range that justify his play and beat us. Basically its 99xx, 33xx and A9xx hands. I cant imagine a 93xx hand or a A3xx hand. Very rarely he can be sitting on AAxx.

Even though it seems we only hold a bluff catcher, more often than not you see this play from villains with a lower flush cause they think they 're gonna get value from 9's on this spot and our line has a lot of 9's there.

I dont like the turn bet at all, even if it is made for value!
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Postby whereisthelove » Sep 30 2010

i probably will call here without any read on the player
unless villain has A3xx, i dont think he will play this way

river, bet out would be better if we have bet the turn? we rarely got raised on this river by worse hand in this stake. how do you guys think?
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