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PLO10 SH bare A bluff

Postby nyehehe » Dec 30 2009

Grabbed byHoldem Manager
PL Omaha $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($25.04)
BB ($4.87)
UTG ($14.62)
UTG+1 ($5.85)
Hero ($12.44)
BTN ($14.08)

Dealt to Hero J:heart: 2:heart: A:diamond: T:club:

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, fold

FLOP ($1.15) T:diamond: Q:diamond: 9:spade:

SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

TURN ($1.15) T:diamond: Q:diamond: 9:spade: 4:club:

SB bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10, BTN folds

RIVER ($3.35) T:diamond: Q:diamond: 9:spade: 4:club: 5:diamond:

SB bets $1.67, Hero raises to $5.50, SB calls $3.83

Hero shows J:heart: 2:heart: A:diamond: T:club:
(Pre 47%, Flop 40.2%, Turn 35.0%)

SB shows K:heart: 5:spade: K:diamond: 7:diamond:
(Pre 53%, Flop 59.8%, Turn 65.0%)

SB wins $13.40

The SB is a tight, aggressive regular.
In this pot I called the turn because I though he has a weak made hand. I have outs and I can bluff him on the river if a draw comes. He thought a lot and finally called. He said he had luck to had the K high flush, I think he would have folded the Q high. Am I thinking correctly? I know it's only PLO10 but I played this hand specially against him. Anyway is the bet size good?
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Postby PLOver » Jan 24 2010

maybe you should bet less, because when you bet big it more looks like you are trying to push him off the hand, rather than wanting him to call, think how much would you bet if you had a nut flush? but it's still thin, usually bare A bluff works more on a flop or turn, because usually people bet nutflush draw before...but i don't know exactly how this level plays, as i remember people call you down with anything on micro limits, so i wouldn't advise any fancy moves here, just play your hand!
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Postby tcuccia » Jun 30 2010

I would be folding this pre-flop to be honest. not suited ace with a dangler is an ugly hand. But some people do play them profitably so it is ok to play them if you are extremely confident about post flop. I'm probably folding on the river though, as our bluff is not going to take villain off smaller flushes often enough at these limits.
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Postby wodka88 » Jul 01 2010

He cant have the Q high flush, the Q is on the board. And I dont see a difference here between K high flush(2nd) and J high flush (3rd) because you either have the nuts or you are bluffing, for example you dont raise this river if youre holding the K high flush yourself. So almost all of his flushes should have the same value for him.

I wouldnt get fancy at these stakes. People are just calling down too light and the bare A bluff isnt going to work as much as you would think it would. He may even call with the bare nut straight on the river.

Why do you assume he has a weak made hand?. He has KT here quite often imo so your only out is an offsuit K. I would just fold the turn.

For future hands, you should probably dont include results, if you want non results oriented answers.

Also preflop is Ok even without the suited A, cmon guys we have the CO and a decent high cards.
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Postby Bouma » Jul 02 2010

Well I would limp this preflop, you really only have 3 high cards for some straight possibilities...

And I agree that this play is kinda too fancy for PLO10$ - imo.
Could work if you bet it through from the flop, but that really depends on your opponent.
On the river it is a little late. Though it could work with deeper thinking opponents, maybe.

Also if he calls a K high flush, he would call a Q high flush too. Because he either puts you on the nutflush or on a bluff. If he thinks you are bluffing, he could probably call you with any flush.
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Postby lolercoasterrr » Jul 17 2010

i actually like this line a lot and i think you can get the villain to fold on the river a good percentage of time... looks like you caught the straight and with the naked ace you definitely could have the nuts.

i'm not positive how well this works in micro stakes though because i think you will be called by 2-pair hands a good number of times. note the player and dont' try to bluff him in the future
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Postby J7 » Jul 18 2010

I would have played all four streets differently. River raise is good, but the raise size is too small.
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Postby safesteps » Jul 31 2010

lolercoasterrr wrote:looks like you caught the straight and with the naked ace you definitely could have the nuts.

i'm not positive how well this works in micro stakes though


J7 wrote:River raise is good



I dont think it has to do anything with the stakes here. I strongly disagree with that line on such a spot. In the villain's position I would really have an easy call cause I would never believe you for a nut flush since you checked behind on the flop. Do you ever check on the flop considering the action so far with nut flush draw?
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Postby Bouma » Jul 31 2010

safesteps wrote:
lolercoasterrr wrote:looks like you caught the straight and with the naked ace you definitely could have the nuts.

i'm not positive how well this works in micro stakes though


J7 wrote:River raise is good



I dont think it has to do anything with the stakes here. I strongly disagree with that line on such a spot. In the villain's position I would really have an easy call cause I would never believe you for a nut flush since you checked behind on the flop. Do you ever check on the flop considering the action so far with nut flush draw?


I think it always depends on the stakes, because he could be called down at the micros even if he started his bluff right on the flop...
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Postby safesteps » Jul 31 2010

Bouma wrote:I think it always depends on the stakes, because he could be called down at the micros even if he started his bluff right on the flop...


Yeah but that would be another issue. What I meant is that with this line he could have been called down even in higher stakes as well.
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