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[MaxStPolish]

Based on the 3 bet pre and follow-up....should i have been able to properly credit this guy for AA. SPR is like 6, but i have trouble folding my overpair with double PP and 2nd nut flush draw. Thoughts??


PokerStars Game #38886748349: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/01/28 21:30:21 ET
Table 'Virginia IX' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: Joanney ($6.48 in chips)
Seat 3: 10after10 ($11.70 in chips)
Seat 4: debdoodle ($5.95 in chips)
Seat 5: MaxStPolish ($6.13 in chips)
Seat 6: bobalobagous ($4.47 in chips)
nobleman_gr was removed from the table for failing to post
Joanney: posts small blind $0.02
10after10: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MaxStPolish [5s 5d Kd Ks]
debdoodle: folds
MaxStPolish: raises $0.12 to $0.17
bobalobagous: raises $0.38 to $0.55
Joanney: folds
10after10: folds
MaxStPolish: calls $0.38
*** FLOP *** [6d 9d 2c]
MaxStPolish: checks
bobalobagous: bets $1
MaxStPolish: raises $3.12 to $4.12
bobalobagous: calls $2.92 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.20) returned to MaxStPolish
*** TURN *** [6d 9d 2c] [Ac]
*** RIVER *** [6d 9d 2c Ac] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MaxStPolish: shows [5s 5d Kd Ks] (a pair of Kings)
bobalobagous: shows [Kh Ad Ah Jd] (three of a kind, Aces)
bobalobagous collected $8.61 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.01 | Rake $0.40
Board [6d 9d 2c Ac 7c]
Seat 2: Joanney (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: 10after10 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: debdoodle folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: MaxStPolish showed [5s 5d Kd Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 6: bobalobagous (button) showed [Kh Ad Ah Jd] and won ($8.61) with three of a kind, Aces

[felt fishing]

Without knowing anything about the player preflop, he could have many hands including Axxx or QQJJ QQJ9, T987, etc... There are alot of hands that he might play the way he did so having an Ace was a small part of his range. So I don't think you can easily say he has an Ace let alone two Aces although many people would 3bet with two Aces.

With that thought in mind, 692r is dry. I can see your thinking by check/raising wanting to get value in which case you are discounting the possibility of having an Ace. From his point of view, by checking, he doesn't think you have 66, 99 or 22 yourself so you might have an overpair that is smaller than his AA or some draw so he bets and is now pot committed. There is about 4 in the pot and he now has about 3 behind with what he thinks is the best hand.

But, by betting out instead, it might give him pause to think that you now could have 66, 99 or 22 and instead he might call behind. Now you are seeing the turn and can decide what to do from there.

[PLOver]

this are premium kings, but still a big dog against naked AAxx, so no need to push, it's relative, taking into account this limits people usually 3bet AAxx i would fold pre, even on this kind of flop you are still 41% at best...

[MaxStPolish]

this are premium kings, but still a big dog against naked AAxx, so no need to push, it's relative, taking into account this limits people usually 3bet AAxx i would fold pre, even on this kind of flop you are still 41% at best...

So, being that is range is so relatively polarized to AA (i agree a 3 bet at micro is 80%+ AAxx) I fold here because I don't have the equity % to call + reverse implied odds??

[PLOver]

this are premium kings, but still a big dog against naked AAxx, so no need to push, it's relative, taking into account this limits people usually 3bet AAxx i would fold pre, even on this kind of flop you are still 41% at best...

So, being that is range is so relatively polarized to AA (i agree a 3 bet at micro is 80%+ AAxx) I fold here because I don't have the equity % to call + reverse implied odds??

yeah no great implied odds + reversed implied odds and mostly because it doesn't pay in long run. this kind of hand is worst against AAxx + being in tough spot most of the time with overpair out of position, it would be much better spot in position, multiway or a bit deeper...