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Postby Stoneface » Jun 15 2009

Fenris78 wrote:Great, thanks for your answers, clabbers and Matt. It's good to have great players confirm my play. Guess it was probably mere coincidence I played the hand correctly :lol:

I did indeed call the river (remember I am a holdem donk and can't fold a 2nd nut flush even on a paired board ;) ) and he showed AAxx with the nut flush.


Hiya, I too am new to Omaha. Playing low limit .10/20 PLO High. I've only played just over 3K hands, that's how new I am. For the first 1K hands I was a loser. A big loser at full ring. Us holdem donks greatly overvalue hands in Omaha and I realised this was causing lots of problems. Now after 3K hands I'm $210 in profit without counting rb payments. The change I made was very simple. The nuts on the flop is worth a pot sized bet. If I still have the nuts on the turn, it's pot again. river the same.

Sure, I fold ALOT of premium hands, like AA double suited when the flop comes bad for me, but you've got to realise if you don't hit the flop, you're probably behind and continuing to put money into the pot is a long term losing strategy. Don't worry about playing too tight, someone will always pay you off at these stakes when you hit :)

Just my opinion and it works for me (at these limits) learning the game :)
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Postby jmbreslin » Jun 15 2009

That's a good plan. Nut-peddling and driving hands for value is the way to beat low stakes PLO players.
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Postby Stoneface » Jun 15 2009

jmbreslin wrote:That's a good plan. Nut-peddling and driving hands for value is the way to beat low stakes PLO players.


Seems the only way to turn a long term profit at low limit. Unimaginative poker by the numbers.

I console//justify myself with 2 key points. 1/ On folding the best hand continually to chasing donks who will (probably) outdraw me with the thought that eventually, I or someone else will stack them. And 2/ I'm not going to reward people who play bad cards with my stack.

It's funny, but the discipline of playing like this would probably serve well back in NL Holdem.
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Postby asidrane » Jun 24 2009

Is there any merit to leading out on the turn in the hand from OP? When the flush comes if we make a bet of half to 3/4 pot we can expect to be called by worse and only get raised when beat, no? This way when raised we can release and avoid a situation where we check call the turn and then have to make a tough decision on the river, no? Does this make any sense or am I just a huge fish?
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Postby clabbers » Jun 26 2009

While a less passive approach on any street before the river may end up saving us money overall, it seems less than optimum to wait until opponent makes the nuts, then bet to find out where we are. Betting the flop > Betting the Turn.
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