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[Bullajami]

$0.25/.50 full ring PLO with 7 players in the pot. I have $42 in front of me. BB is playing LAG as can be. He is in every pot, and betting hyper aggro. He has already stacked off once, and doubled me up once from my original short stack buy-in. BTN seems like a very solid player, and is sitting with more than double the max buy-in to prove it.

In MP with
I limp because of the possibility of a great payoff on a strong flop. BTN calls and BB raises the pot to $7 ($6.50 to me to call). I make the loose call as BB could literally have anything here, and BTN has folded in these situations previously. Unfortunately, this time the BTN also calls.
$21 in the pot and I have $35 left in front of me.

Flop is

BB bets the pot $21, but could still have any 4 cards here. He has taken this line many times with complete air. If it's HU I auto-raise, but with BTN still to act, I am not sure. BTN had something PF when he called.

What's the play here with middle set and a gutshot to a non-nut straight?

[Willem]

You probably need to jam here. BTN will likely fold without QTxx or JJxx, and you are likely a favorite against BB's range here. And if others calls, your full-house draw usually has around 33% equity (unless JJxx is out there). You have 36% against two random QTxx hands.

But you might even fold this preflop. You have a playable hand, but there won't be that many flops that give you are strong hand. You will flop a set some % of the time, and a nut flushdraw some % of the time. But these hands are a bit iffy to play on the flop in a big multiway pot. A set + FD would be a monster, but the chance of that flopping is very small. I think there are much better spots than this one.

[tcuccia]

You have only $35 left in a $21 pot, so you SPR is less than two. With a low spr situation you have to be prepared to commit with middle set because if you are not, then you should just fold that type of hand pre-flop (which actually isnt a bad idea imo)

[jameseigenmann]

If you have the option that the turn could give you a straight draw and flush draw then you are making a profitable play by betting the flop.

[Bouma]

You have only $35 left in a $21 pot, so you SPR is less than two. With a low spr situation you have to be prepared to commit with middle set because if you are not, then you should just fold that type of hand pre-flop (which actually isnt a bad idea imo)

I agree with the first part. You should definately get it in here.
First because of the low SPR, second because of the LAG BB who wants to give his money away. You should be favorite here, but you will get sucked out sometimes, because BB won't be drawing dead.

But I wouldn't fold this preflop against this kind of LAG BB. You have position, and with this low SPR you can put it in on the flop with something like top 2pair, the set of nines or some strong draw, and this guy will likely call you with anything. Which is favorable.

Now for the button, I think Willem is right. If he is solid, he will fold his hand most of the time. He may push sometimes, but you are committed, and maybe the BB also wants to get in...

[J7]

The flop is obviously a shove, but...

$0.25/.50 full ring PLO
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I have $42 in front of me.
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I limp because of the possibility of a great payoff on a strong flop. BTN calls and BB raises the pot to $7 ($6.50 to me to call).

How can he make it 14bb to go with 2 limpers, since this is pot limit? I would have called the floor here.

Or have you have mixed up the bet/stack/blind amounts? As it currently is, this hand (from a strategic/educational perspective) is not even a PLO hand, as some of the vital issues (such as the viability of the preflop limp/call) are dependent on things such as stack sizes, which are inconsistent in your post.

[lolercoasterrr]

Not sure if this is live or not, but anyway, I think jamming is the only option with an SPR of less than 2. Even if you are against a straight, I think the equity percentages are high enough for this to be the correct play.

[safesteps]

How can he make it 14bb to go with 2 limpers, since this is pot limit? I would have called the floor here.

Or have you have mixed up the bet/stack/blind amounts? As it currently is, this hand (from a strategic/educational perspective) is not even a PLO hand, as some of the vital issues (such as the viability of the preflop limp/call) are dependent on things such as stack sizes, which are inconsistent in your post.

This + the fact that is on hero's holdings AND on the flop!

The playability of your hand comes from the fact that your suited A is of different suit from your pair. So, when you hit set, 50% of the time it's gonna be the suit of the suited A and thus you re gonna have at least bd nut fd, not to mention how many times you re gonna have nut fd + set to shove it happilly!

[Bouma]

This + the fact that is on hero's holdings AND on the flop!

love it

OT: call because of your read + redraws if he actually has something to show...