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[simmo5050]

Villain is 26/4/14/0 (?) if that helps. Was I overly aggressive with such a good hand?

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
7 Players
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Stacks:
UTG Ming77 ($14.15)
UTG+1 markc75 ($13.25)
MP simmo5050 ($24.90)
CO kinimod22 ($89.75)
BTN cofeplayer ($25)
SB woker88 ($30.30)
BB S1cker_0ne ($25)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 7 players) simmo5050 is MP
Ming77 calls $0.25, 1 fold, simmo5050 raises to $1.25, 4 folds, Ming77 calls $1

Flop: ($2.85, 2 players)
Ming77 checks, simmo5050 bets $2.25, Ming77 calls $2.25

Turn: ($7.35, 2 players)
Ming77 bets $2, simmo5050 raises to $6, Ming77 folds

Final Pot: $15.35

simmo5050 wins $14.80 (net +$5.30)

[blah730235]

26/4/14/0

I guess the first number is VP and the second one PFR over a decent number of hands? I'll examine it as such.

Preflop looks fine.

Flop you can make an argument for betting pot. The board is draw heavy and your HU with a player that looks like a bit of a fish.

Actually I would prefer an over-shove on the turn. Far to often semi-fish will peal a normal sized raise here with a flush draw and play the river fit-or-fold. Not that that's a bad thing but if villains willing to call an all in a decent amount of the time with a draw on the turn might as well just get more money in good. An over-shove becomes even better here because of your KK blockers. Villain has considerably less TP hands in his range (which I would expect this type of player to stack off with usually with a turn and river bet combo) that you will be folding out with an over-shove.

[Fenris78]

I think raising this is a must. You don't want to let him get a cheap card with his obvious blocking bet.

Since you have two Ks, it's highly unlikely villain has a K, and extremely likely he has some sort of draw. This is also why I would prefer a bigger flop bet too, because most players won't fold the flop with any kind of 8+ out draw even when you bet full pot. So on a flop like this I usually bet close to pot.

I agree that just pushing is probably the best play. You give villain almost exactly 5:1 which are the right odds to draw to 8 outs and only a bit too short for 7 outs (flush outs that don't give you a boat). So villain can even call here and check-fold the river unless he improves. And when he improves and pushes you will have to call because of the odds you are getting and because you don't know what draw he had. And if you raise any bigger than $6 you can just raise allin anyways. Also, stack sizes aren't deep enough to give him the chance to monkey shove over your raise because it's obvious you are never folding after you raise.

So that's a spot where it's hard to get villain to make a mistake no matter what you do. Just stick it in and hope he makes a bad call.

[simmo5050]

"You give villain almost exactly 5:1 which are the right odds to draw to 8 outs and only a bit too short for 7 outs (flush outs that don't give you a boat). So villain can even call here and check-fold the river unless he improves"

If I push it is surely 2-1 not 5-1?

[Fenris78]

Yes, when you push it's about 2:1. When you raise to $6, you give him about 5:1 when you include implied odds