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With an M of 4.59 Is this a fold or push?

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With an M of 4.59 Is this a fold or push?

Postby redman7027 » Jul 27 2010

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 215 Tournament, 125/250 Blinds 25 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

UTG (t9904)
UTG+1 (t10803)
MP1 (t6287)
MP2 (t10795)
MP3 (t7065)
CO (t10070)
Button (t12002)
Hero (SB) (t2754)
BB (t3405)

Hero's M: 4.59

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3Image, 3Image
4 folds, MP3 bets t500, 2 folds, Hero ?, 2 folds

Total pot: t1475

You move?
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Postby the_hawk » Jul 27 2010

I'm pushing this.
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Postby nukeduke » Jul 27 2010

the_hawk wrote:I'm pushing this.


Me too.

I don't see how pushing this could be a mistake at this stage.
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Postby chrisjp » Jul 27 2010

This is read dependent. Is the opener loose? Is the opener observant? The blinds are short enough that villain should have a hand strong enough to call here. But will he? Not necessarily if he is loose and/or poor. I want to push but wouldn't if I felt I had very little or no fold equity. Sometimes fold, but push is certainly OK. Apestyles says that playing low pairs and A-rag too aggressively can get you into trouble.

Looks like a push here though, since maybe you let the cat out of the bag since it shows two folds after hero. Or maybe you were just being tricky. 8)

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Postby the_hawk » Jul 27 2010

chrisjp wrote:Looks like a push here though, since maybe you let the cat out of the bag since it shows two folds after hero. Or maybe you were just being tricky. 8)


I felt like saying "you have some FE" but was too honest and nitty to do so :lol:
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Postby MXRider » Jul 27 2010

I'm actually thinking of folding here as I don't appear to have any FE here. I am much more willing to open it up than shove over an open.
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Postby cowboyinexile » Jul 29 2010

chrisjp wrote:This is read dependent.


Agree.
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Postby TaMaHiTTeR » Jul 31 2010

I agree,,just depends on opponent,,,a min raise could want action.. if hes good he knows your in shove mode and will push so he prolly wants the action. If he is loose or leaky I def shove here...other then that I fold and use your position that is coming up to pick up. I also think you do have some FE here,,,,even with 11 BB's...his upper range will call no doubt but he could fold as low as 77-, AJ-, Ax....depending on his previous play....In the end,,,I fold..
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Postby chrisjp » Aug 10 2010

Red, so what happened?
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Postby KKmonster » Aug 11 2010

I think it would matter to know the payout structure of the tournament, and how many players left till money
it helps to know people's tendency close to bubble, or right after being in money

if it's on the bubble, then you'll probably be called by a tighter range, as they're expecting you to shove with a stronger hand
and right after bubble, people would be expecting more lighter shove, so will be willing to call lighter too
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Postby chrisjp » Aug 11 2010

True. In this case the blinds and antes in this post mean that it's Level 7, well before the bubble. Since this is the Sunday Million it pays like 15% of the field, but the really big prizes are in finishing in the top 3...pretty much typical for a final table.

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Postby redman7027 » Aug 11 2010

I pushed and all folded.

I am not sure it was a good play but it worked.
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