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Postby Newbatron » Jul 11 2010

Anyone play this differently? I have no real reads on the villain only that he's been playing 26/17 from 20 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 2.2 Tournament, 20/40 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t2180)
SB (t8920)
BB (t2800)
UTG (t3000)
UTG+1 (t6170)
MP1 (t1170)
MP2 (t3410)
MP3 (t2530)
Hero (CO) (t3145)

Hero's M: 52.42

Preflop: Hero is CO with :ks, :qd
3 folds, MP2 bets t120, 1 fold, Hero calls t120, Button calls t120, SB calls t100, 1 fold

Flop: (t520) :kc, :jc, :5h (4 players)
SB checks, MP2 bets t320, Hero calls t320, Button calls t320, 1 fold

Turn: (t1480) :8d (3 players)
MP2 bets t1120, Hero ?

Without any reads this early in tourney I have to fold right? Calling the turn means I have half my stack in and im committed. Cant see the villain showing up with anything worse than my hand a chop at best? Any other lines i could have taken? raise the flop to define my hand and alos not give players behind me odds to draw? Think this just means the villain folds everything Im ahead of and shuvs everything im behind. Your thoughts please.
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Postby the_hawk » Jul 11 2010

Fold preflop.
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Postby Newbatron » Jul 12 2010

the_hawk wrote:Fold preflop.

Really? 80bbs deep in position gainst a MP raise who has been farly active?

Whats your flatting range here? 22-TT to mine, flat AQ/AK?
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Postby the_hawk » Jul 12 2010

Newbatron wrote:Really? 80bbs deep in position gainst a MP raise who has been farly active?


Yep. Principle is to avoid playing awkward / potentially expensive hands, even (to some extent) in position.

Whats your flatting range here? 22-TT to mine, flat AQ/AK?


Certainly the set-mining pairs, virtually never AK (3-betting that close to 100% of the time), not sure about AQ.
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Postby Tall Paul » Jul 12 2010

the_hawk wrote:3-bet preflop.


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Postby redman7027 » Jul 12 2010

I think you played it fine. Fold on the turn and move on. Folding preflop is also an option but not always the best.
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Postby mconstab » Jul 12 2010

I fold pre but call if it's KQ suited. As played fold the turn.
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Postby leofric » Jul 12 2010

I'd fold preflop as well although I might consider a raise if we were slightly less deep stacked if you want to slow him down.

The reason for the fold is precisely because of the way the hand played out. He may have just c-bet with nothing but all you do is call because there are still 2 players to act. When he barrels again you pretty much have to fold even if you are ahead a lot of the time.
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