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[MXRider]

We are exactly on the bubble with 16 players left in an $12 135 man rush trny. I've been playing my normal snug game up to this point. Not a lot of info on button. How do you proceed? Not going to tell whether or not I won this hand but want to get views from you all on the right way to play this.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 12 Tournament, 400/800 Blinds 100 Ante (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t29674)
SB (t23364)
Hero (BB) (t18116)
UTG (t34969)
MP (t7305)
CO (t20935)

Hero's M: 10.06

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, Q
3 folds, Button calls t800, 1 fold, Hero bets t3200, Button calls t2400

Pretty standard to this point. Anyone just see a flop? If we are staying with standard here, we are folding to a shove, right?



Flop: (t7400) K, 6, A (2 players)


With this flop, I'm determined to go with my hand. SPR=2. No way am I folding and happy to get the money in. Right? Prior to leading out, I looked at all possible holdings of what I might be behind to. AK, KK, AA, 66, A6. 3 of these 5 are super unlikely as I expect to get them in preflop. I also can't see 66 limping on the button so discounting that as well. He can't have the nut flush draw here either. So A6 is my only concern and believe with all my heart that I'm good here pretty much always.


Hero bets t4000, Button raises to t26374 (All-In), Hero calls t10816 (All-In)

[janeg]

Was it normal for the Button to limp first-in?

[MXRider]

Was it normal for the Button to limp first-in?

don't know cuz this is a rush trny

[leofric]

I agree with you preflop and indeed on the flop - love the bet-size since it invites him to come over the top. If he has you beat its just a cooler.

That said I play on Party so I'd also expect to see K6 here a lot of the time!

[Suited_Jock]

I like it seeing weaker aces here ALOT.. if he had A6 meh load up a new one.

[Radford]

Looks pretty standard to me. I think i'm playing it the same way. No way you can fold to his shove on the river.

[PauliF]

preflop perfect

on the flop this is certainly a juicy line and one I would take often

but there are some other options that might be played sometimes

I would sometimes take the slow and easy approach

I am mighty fond of the 40% of pot on flop >>>> 50% of pot on turn>>>> 60% of pot on river betting pattern

if the aim here is getting it all in coz we are ahead most of the time (which is clearly the case) then against some (many) villains it often times makes sense to reel them in slowly...

in this case you bet out 4k square on the flop... which is 54% of the flop... you get a shove which is what you want... but what if he just called? then you 10,816 left and the pot would be 15,400...

if you do the 40>50>60 and he calls all along then it goes:

you bet 2960 on the flop leaving 11,856 behind
then you bet 6,660 into a 13,320 pot on the turn leaving 5,916 behind...
then you shove your last 5,196 on the river into a 19,980 river....

now the good thing about this line is that it frequently will pull in weak lose players (who still are everywhere at the lower stakes).... who will call you down with weak aces and hands like 99-QQ as well as draw chasers and the like....

in this case the fella was playing agro and may well have had a monster but as we think we are ahead much more frequently than not might draw them in more frequently than chunkier bets on the flop with required shoves on the turn (or very suspicious checks there)...

the 40>50>60 has some even more power when playing deeper luring whisful amatuers and odds savy wannabes who reluctantly pay of your bets along the way just about convincing themselves to have a peel each time....

the other option here is the come and get me approach...

less so than in Rush tournys than in standard onese... but if you have been active and you think it has been noted then against an aggro or potential aggro villian a check raise might well kick some ass here

[MXRider]

Thanks for all the replies. You all have confirmed that I did in fact play this hand well. Villain chose to shove over my CB with KQo. How horrible a shove is this from his point? To me, it is absolutely stupid as all hands he is ahead of are folding and he's getting called by many hands he is behind to. The turn was the giving him 2 outs on the river and of course he hit...sooooo frustrating these things are at times

[royze1]

My first thought was he is shoving from so far behind I'm dancing on my desk when I mash the call button. This is almost always someone who chose not to steal when he damn well should have, instead he's trapping you into trying to steal the blinds and his limp with the intention of calling your raise and shoving most flops. If he had a real strong hand he'd string you along and just keep calling, so when he follows through with a shove I couldn't call fast enough.

NH crappy result

[Radford]

Thanks for all the replies. You all have confirmed that I did in fact play this hand well. Villain chose to shove over my CB with KQo. How horrible a shove is this from his point? To me, it is absolutely stupid as all hands he is ahead of are folding and he's getting called by many hands he is behind to. The turn was the giving him 2 outs on the river and of course he hit...sooooo frustrating these things are at times

Just because you lost the hand, doesn't mean you played the hand badly. You just have to go 'Sigh' and load the next one up

[MXRider]

Thanks for all the replies. You all have confirmed that I did in fact play this hand well. Villain chose to shove over my CB with KQo. How horrible a shove is this from his point? To me, it is absolutely stupid as all hands he is ahead of are folding and he's getting called by many hands he is behind to. The turn was the giving him 2 outs on the river and of course he hit...sooooo frustrating these things are at times

Just because you lost the hand, doesn't mean you played the hand badly. You just have to go 'Sigh' and load the next one up

absolutely and totally agree. The outcome of the hand doesn't matter, just leading up to it is the important part.

[janeg]

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