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[redman7027]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 27.5 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

UTG (t3935)
UTG+1 (t7975)
MP1 (t1945)
MP2 (t2990)
MP3 (t3075)
CO (t2815)
Hero (Button) (t9425)
SB (t5395)
BB (t5570)

Hero's M: 41.89

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, Q
5 folds, CO bets t450,

Your Move?

[leofric]

Any reads on CO? Also what's your own image like? If its loose then AQs would above your range to reraise so I'd raise to about 1300 and call a shove off him (it should be shove or fold for him). I think he'd have to be pretty tight before I'd consider not playing back at him. KQ. AJ and AT are probably all within his raising range from the CO.

Could also depend on the image of the Blinds. If either of them could be likely to shove over both of you then its a problem since you dont want to be taking coinflips against their stacks.

I'd be happy to take the raise option and see what happens

[redman7027]

All these post are from the same game I have seen 2 hold cards maybe 100 hands very tight and showed very good hands.

[the_hawk]

Yeah, pretty much what leo said. Standard 3-bet here.

[leofric]

All these post are from the same game I have seen 2 hold cards maybe 100 hands very tight and showed very good hands.

But I'd still think his range for raising from the CO is going to be wider than QQ+,AKo+. The problem is his stack size, any reasonable reraise and you're almost pot commited to calling even if you were sure he had AK.

[redman7027]

So far i have played as you all have suggested, except on this this I pushed.

Is this OK?

[MXRider]

No reason to push preflop. This allows your opponent to play perfectly against you and doesn't allow him to make as much of a mistake. I wouldn't even mind a flat here to play in position and keeping in his dominated hands postflop but have no problem 3b/calling a shove from CO.

[redman7027]

I think pushing is best do others disagree?

1) Villian just put in 16% of his stack. (If he folds I pick up a good # of chip with out a fight)
2) I have the blinds behind me with stacks that can squeeze.
3) I have a drawing hand that will miss the flop 2/3 of the time on the flop.

It seems to me pushing to isolate, get a weaker A to call, and get all my money in preflop vs. an under pair so I can see 5 cards is best.

THe only hand i am realy worried about is a AK. Which i am going to pay off if an A flops. I realy do not want to see a flop if he is stealing even though i am likly in the lead. He does not have enough behind to make it worth while.

[Taardvark]

The play I don't really like here is a flat because we invite the blinds to attend the party. AQ doesn't play very well multi-way. We also invite a play from one of the blinds and will be faced with a decision for more than half of our stack.

I think a push is too much. I think a 3 bet to around 1000-1200 is where I'd go with this.

We have a hand that we are willing to play for villian's 18BB stack. If one of the blinds 4 bet shoves I think we fold and we get away for the minimum.

[mconstab]

I don't see the point of 3 betting if we don't think he's going to stack off with worse, if villain will call it off a bit wider then I'm just 3betting and getting it in.

If villain has been super tight then I don't mind just flatting and as MX says keep all his dominated hands in. It also might induce a squeeze from the blinds which is obviously higher variance but a play I'd be happy in playing back at. I don't really see being squeezed as a negative although I'd need to have a bit of a read on the blinds to call it off with AQs. Must add that I play cash and get squeezed almost every hand so I'm unsure of the frequencies players are squeezing in tournaments this deep.

If the blinds just flat then we have AQs in position multi way which can never be that bad.

[redman7027]

I think this is a situation where cash games are different. I am a poor cash game player or at least not as good as I am at tournements. The fact that it is real money messes me up.

The goal in tournements is to just chip up in a low risk way. I think the origional raise is likely to call my push if he has a medium to good A. My hand is not good enough to 3 bet. In cash games you are OK with small advantages for all you chips if you lose just rebuy. In larger tournements in my opinion it is all about taking fold equity.

[Radford]

To me, this is an easy shove. I'm not too keen on flatting and being OOP. I probably just ship it. If he folds i increase my stack with another 525 chips. If he calls, then so be it. Race time.

[MXRider]

To me, this is an easy shove. I'm not too keen on flatting and being OOP. I probably just ship it. If he folds i increase my stack with another 525 chips. If he calls, then so be it. Race time.

Big difference if we were going to be OOP, but here we have position on the initial raiser. I really don't mind any of my 3 options here

[Radford]

Oh. I thought we was in the BB for some reason lol.

In that case, i just 3-bet. If the blinds shove then i fold. But if the CO shoves i call.

[poker_Elmo]

Oh. I thought we was in the BB for some reason lol.

In that case, i just 3-bet. If the blinds shove then i fold. But if the CO shoves i call.

+1

Note that if the initial raiser had a 5K stack, I would be fine just calling since the effective stack is over 30bbs. I don't mind taking flops in position when deeper stacked like that.