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Hands to play UTG

Postby BobBarker » Jun 22 2011

Is raising A9 suited+ fine utg?

Is kj suited a good raise utg?

Is AJ offsuit, suited and kq offsuit, suited utg a good raise?

Are you calling a raise with AJ offsuit or KQ offsuit from any position?

Is it best to raise these hands utg but not call a raise with them?

Should you only call a raise or reraise with AK and some high pairs?
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Re: utg

Postby Misunderstud » Jun 22 2011

BobBarker wrote:Is raising A9 suited+ fine utg?

Is kj suited a good raise utg?

Is AJ offsuit, suited and kq offsuit, suited utg a good raise?


Of these, I would raise only AJs in a tight FR game

Are you calling a raise with AJ offsuit or KQ offsuit from any position?


No, but I would 3-bet a single raiser with both if I though his hand range was sufficiently wide.

Is it best to raise these hands utg but not call a raise with them?


Suited broadways play well multiway. If there are likely to be several players in the hand, calling with those type of hands isn't bad.

Should you only call a raise or reraise with AK and some high pairs?


These are good hands with great equity in most situations. I would be inclined to build as large a pot as possible with them.

You write good quizzes, Bob. Nside will now tell you whether I got the answers right. :)
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Postby nsidestrate » Jun 22 2011

Misunderstud wrote:You write good quizzes, Bob. Nside will now tell you whether I got the answers right. :)


I might raise KQ UTG in some games. Otherwise, I'm pretty much in agreement with you top to bottom.
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Postby BobBarker » Jun 22 2011

You cant agree on the last three questions because they contradict each other?
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Postby nsidestrate » Jun 22 2011

BobBarker wrote:You cant agree on the last three questions because they contradict each other?


You'll have to spell it out for me. I don't see a contradiction. I will admit that I sometimes have difficulty understanding your questions, so perhaps we aren't on the same page.
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Re: utg

Postby BobBarker » Jun 22 2011

Whats a big enough pocket pair to reraise a raiser from any position? Whats the lowest non pair hand you would call a raise with or reraise with from any position? How does someone figure out the marginal spots?
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Postby nsidestrate » Jun 22 2011

BobBarker wrote:Whats a big enough pocket pair to reraise a raiser from any position?


QQ+ is always good to reraise anyone from any position. You would obviously re-raise some raisers with far worse pairs, but QQ/KK/AA are pretty much re-raise hands against everyone in any seat.

Whats the lowest non pair hand you would call a raise with or reraise with from any position?


This question skirts too many variables. AK is obviously going to be reraised in virtually every situation. AQ is very rarely going to be folded, but it would get folded in some situations, like when there are two raises in front of you or when an especially rocky player raises from EP. Against most players, you'd probably re-raise it, but if the question is would I always raise or call in every possible situation with AQ, I'd have to say no -- I will sometimes (rarely) fold it. AQs is probably the worst hand I would never fold. And even that, if a tight player raised in EP and a tighter player re-raised in MP, I'd probably let it go.

How does someone figure out the marginal spots?


The best answer is that you should stop worrying so much about them, because they really don't make much difference to your results. The second best answer is practice.
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Postby BobBarker » Jun 22 2011

Is it weak play to call with aj offsuit against a raise or 99? Misunderstood you dont really like a9 and a10 utg?
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Postby Misunderstud » Jun 23 2011

BobBarker wrote:Is it weak play to call with aj offsuit against a raise or 99?


(For a start, how would you know he was raising 99?) Generally speaking, you call when you want to encourage other people to come along. A hand like AJ is better played HU and in position, and 3-betting a lone raiser is more likely to achieve that outcome. If I put the lone raiser on a very tight range, such as QQ+, AQ+, I would fold because AJ is on a hiding to nothing against that range.

Misunderstood you dont really like a9 and a10 utg?


Nor AJo. UTG there are 8 or 9 people still to act, so 8 or 9 chances that someone behind you has a better hand, and there are many better hands than A9/10. (The closer to the button you are, the fewer people are left to act, so the wider you can open raise.) UTG you will also have the disadvantage of playing out of position unless only the blinds come along.
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Postby BobBarker » Jun 23 2011

Ive heard of some people playing JJ+ and AQ+ that just seems to tight to beat the game?
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Postby Misunderstud » Jun 23 2011

BobBarker wrote:Ive heard of some people playing JJ+ and AQ+ that just seems to tight to beat the game?


From UTG? 99+ AJs+ AQ+ is pretty standard from there at FR. You should aim to make a profit in every seat apart from the blinds, but the closer to BTN you are, the bigger those profits should be.
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Postby BobBarker » Jun 23 2011

Is Aj suited the same as offsuit if you ran it five times?

Your never folding AJ against a single raise?

If your raising 99 utg why wouldnt you call with it or reraise against a single raise?

When are you throwing kq and 88 into the mix?
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Postby Misunderstud » Jun 23 2011

BobBarker wrote:Is Aj suited the same as offsuit if you ran it five times?

It doesn't matter how many times you run it, they will still be two different hands.
Your never folding AJ against a single raise?

That wasn't what I said.
If your raising 99 utg why wouldnt you call with it or reraise against a single raise?

I didn't say that either. I would call with it if I expected several behind me to do the same; I would reraise with it if I thought it might get me HU vs a player who is either weak or has several worse hands in his raising range; I would fold it vs a player who I think is decent and unlikely to have many worse hands in his raising range.
When are you throwing kq and 88 into the mix?

First in, I'd play KQ from 4 to 6 OTB, depending on the game; KQs/88 up to 8 OTB. Nside (who can play looser than me because he's better than me) might play them earlier. If others are in the pot, see previous answer.
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Postby nsidestrate » Jun 23 2011

BobBarker wrote:Is it weak play to call with aj offsuit against a raise or 99?


AJo is a terrible hand to call or re-raise with against a raise. 99 is much better, but often still a mistake.

Misunderstood you dont really like a9 and a10 utg?


No one should like them UTG.
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Postby BobBarker » Jun 23 2011

Aj and KQ are pretty marginal. Then 88 seems to be a little better and 99 but stilll marginal. AQ and 1010 seem to have decent value against someones range from all positions? Your chances of hitting the flop with AQ are not to good?
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