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[ciaran]

4/8 lhe live
I limp A6hh UTG and get the expected 4 callers, but rockish BB raises. Everyone calls.
Flop Kh Qd Th
BB bets, I call, everyone else folds
Turn 9h
He bets, I raise
River Kc
He checks, I check

[MXRider]

When he doesn't bet the river, he doesn't have a boat and I bet here all day long.

[nsidestrate]

say wha? You gotta bet this and usually call a raise, although you could actually lay it down against the right player. I'd seriously consider raising the flop bet as well.

[ciaran]

I never said I was any good at this.

I'm not sure this guy calls a river bet (he had limped on my right with multiple limpers a couple times before and then had me raise and folded closing the action pre-flop), but he's only check-raising me with kings full (might even just call quads since it's a jackpot hand), so a bet is clearly correct.

I probably got the pre-flop and flop action wrong, also. There were probably 6 or 7 to the flop, and my flop call got at least one overcall, which was my intention. Given that raises at this table were exceedingly rare, and probably 75% put in by me, is going for overcalls correct/OK? I would have led if the villain had checked. I guess no one with two pair or a J ever folds, and I'd just as soon have them along for two bets as one.

Anyway, villain had ATdd.

[Piscivorous]

I'm not sure this guy calls a river bet (he had limped on my right with multiple limpers a couple times before and then had me raise and folded closing the action pre-flop), but he's only check-raising me with kings full (might even just call quads since it's a jackpot hand), so a bet is clearly correct.

First, you'll never know if he'll call the river bet if you don't bet.
Second, I'm bet, check-raise calling this river. A lot of people, especially live players, will fire a check-raise in their because it is their only way of winning the pot.

Side question, so I know where you are coming from:

Is this the lowest fixed limit game spread where you are playing live?

[nsidestrate]

I probably got the pre-flop and flop action wrong, also.

Pre-flop is fine. I'd open limp suited aces here too, especially if I thought I might get what you got.

The flop is dicey. If you think you get overcalls more often than you get isolated with the BB, a call is OK. I usually raise, but that's because I'm something of a maniac, so semi-bluffs are important to balance my range.

[ciaran]

I probably got the pre-flop and flop action wrong, also.

Pre-flop is fine. I'd open limp suited aces here too, especially if I thought I might get what you got.

The flop is dicey. If you think you get overcalls more often than you get isolated with the BB, a call is OK. I usually raise, but that's because I'm something of a maniac, so semi-bluffs are important to balance my range.

I meant got it wrong in the sense that I mis-stated it in the OP. Limping suited aces in this game was clearly correct, as almost no one ever raised but me, and 6 ways to the flop in a raised hand was standard. As should be obvious, I'm no great shakes at lhe, but I was confident I was the best player at this table the entire time I was sitting there (about 14 hours, as it turned out).

[ciaran]

Is this the lowest fixed limit game spread where you are playing live?

Yes, this was the only lhe game really going at Harrah's Tunica (sounded like they may have gotten a 10/20 game going at least briefly).

Another oddity, was that it was played with 1/2 blinds. Never did get a straight answer as to why. The 4/8 at the Horseshoe was 2/4 blinds, so it's not some MS specific thing.

[Piscivorous]

Yes, this was the only lhe game really going at Harrah's Tunica (sounded like they may have gotten a 10/20 game going at least briefly).

Another oddity, was that it was played with 1/2 blinds. Never did get a straight answer as to why. The 4/8 at the Horseshoe was 2/4 blinds, so it's not some MS specific thing.

Hmm. Were you staying at Harrah's? I found during my stay that the best games [and most choices] for LHE were at the Goldstrike, Horseshoe and Sam's Town. Harrah's is decent for small-pool MTTs, but their cash game traffic is abhorrent.

Yes the low blinds sometimes make it seem as if you are playing bingo. Not that standard 2/4 blinds would keep from throwing their chips in when you 3 bet them.

[nsidestrate]

They did the half sized blind thing when I was there too. One would think it would encourage tighter play in the blinds, but it did not.

[thew92]

say wha? You gotta bet this and usually call a raise, although you could actually lay it down against the right player. I'd seriously consider raising the flop bet as well.

You really can't raise the flop here you want to keep the players behind you in the pot. Now if one of them happens to raise behind you can Cold-call-3bet the flop if 3 or more players are still involved on the flop.

And yes you must bet this river and call a raise.