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    k lets get this straight

    my primary goal is not to ask for stakes but rather, to do a session review with people who are interested. i can see why u banned my post but i hope you see the fact that im not a begging, "steal to play" type of people. if i dun hv anything on pt i wouldnt be making this claim, this seems understandable doesnt it?

    since staking seems to trigger a "wow lol he thinks he can run away" response from most of you who did post in the thread, i'll say this again, relax, im not simply asking for stakes, it's not my ultimate goal, nevertheless, i think it could be interesting.

    i hv participated in the strategy section about hu game and glanced thru limit holdem section, not really interested into 0.05/0.1 hands cos these players usually hv huge leaks (hence they play those stakes) but i did make a few posts regarding hu/6max play, i sincerely hope that clears some concern over my "thief" status, maybe not so fast though, it's okay.

    isp whvise, yes im from hk and i dun think it matters that much (whether im chinese, american chinese, black or white, or purple for that matter), if my isp hurts my reputation i cannot do anything about it.

    i have also told you about the limits i play so i dun really think 200 or 500 is a huge amount of money, hell i just staked someone 500 at 5/10 and bust him in the same session lol.

    I really want someone to coach me in terms of hu play, i hv watched videos from thebryce and stoxtrader and learnt some concepts but it would be interesting to hv someone to give me advice in real time, i think the reverse is true too that's why I offer free coaching if u play lower than me, of course if u think i can help that is.

    still cant post a damn pic lol, never mind. i will get to 10 posts eventually.

    i dun think a thief would spend so much time to get his name clear imo, but you hv made some valid points so i typed this response.

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    make this my 10th post

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    and the pics that i wanted to post long ago.




    about me playing 20/40, the site doesnt support pt so u might consider me bluffing.

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    Impressive results.

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    Assuming these are head-up stats, I don't really have enough of a background to say how they look. The VP$IP from the SB of about 74 is a bit lower than I play HU, but reasonable. I don't understand Folded SB to a steal in HU, but it can't be that you fold 76% of the time that the BB raises, can it? That would seem very wrong.

    The win rate looks extremely good. If you are up $4k, you should be in great shape.

    I would think the bankroll requirement to play 15/30 HU would be somewhere north of 15k, since I understand HU to be potentially much more swingy than full tables or 6 max. The only players I know to play these limits HU are Willem and PokerElmo.

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    What I don't get is if you're making 4 bb/hour playing up to $15/$30...why are you asking for a stake of $100?

    AHA, just read the other thread. What do you care about rakeback if you're only playing with $100? Just deposit your own 50 or 100 on Pokerstars and try it out, you don't need to play with someone elses money to do that.

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    So...are you, or are you not, asking for a stake? First you say you aren't, then you say you are, then you suggest that you might stake others...

    Some general caveats for potential backers to protect yourselves from scams:

    1) Do a google search on all the person's usernames. In this case, ineedcash112 only comes up twice on google, and one of those is for ITH. Someone with 15,000 hands should certainly have a reference or two somewhere on teh webz.

    I have serious concerns that the PT stats are photoshopped with a different username.

    2) In this case, this person is asking for a stake on Stars, but clearly has some significant funds at AP. Why aren't they asking for a transfer?

    3) Before doing transferring, you should require an unknown to sit at a limit table with a (determined by you) significant amount of money, so you can be sure that they really have the funds, and if they are the unknown, they send first, under all circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsidestrate
    I would think the bankroll requirement to play 15/30 HU would be somewhere north of 15k, since I understand HU to be potentially much more swingy than full tables or 6 max. The only players I know to play these limits HU are Willem and PokerElmo.
    I am currently working with 1000BB which would be 30k for 15/30. But there may come a time when will make that 1500BB or even 2000BB. (Btw, I currently play 5/10 and 8/16 HU, but I will try 10/20 HU next month.)

    Regarding the PT stats. The sample size at 10/20 and higher is very small. I've had steaks of 3K hands where I ran over 10BB/100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toom
    So...are you, or are you not, asking for a stake? First you say you aren't, then you say you are, then you suggest that you might stake others...

    Some general caveats for potential backers to protect yourselves from scams:

    1) Do a google search on all the person's usernames. In this case, ineedcash112 only comes up twice on google, and one of those is for ITH. Someone with 15,000 hands should certainly have a reference or two somewhere on teh webz.

    I have serious concerns that the PT stats are photoshopped with a different username.

    2) In this case, this person is asking for a stake on Stars, but clearly has some significant funds at AP. Why aren't they asking for a transfer?

    3) Before doing transferring, you should require an unknown to sit at a limit table with a (determined by you) significant amount of money, so you can be sure that they really have the funds, and if they are the unknown, they send first, under all circumstances.
    ive said it before and i'll say again, getting a stake is not my ultimate goal, the point is to improve my overall game, I'm not going deposit 50 or 100 into a site just to try their games because at lower limits the biggest enemy is the rake (let's face it, it's a fact). I need a win rate like 6bb/100 to crush those games without rakeback which i consider a huge challenge. i always wonder why people play at ps without rakeback, it could be their loyalty program but it seems to me that rb isn't available there. I'm more into hand session review and coaching stuff cos i think they are worth more than a stake, but of course I welcome stakes cos, who hates $ anyway? and im genuinely suprised that no one signed up for stakes from me.

    my results are not impressive at all compared to experts/pros, I've been told that 5.5bbb/100 is sustainable against fishes hu. it is my goal to achieve a win rate over 5bb/100 over time. table selection is a big part of my game, i dont play against good players hu. that said, im a recreational player so who cares & i admit the database is nothing in terms of size. (just the last 40 days)

    If you worry that I'm a fake identity... Well i post under the same name at stoxpoker and i've actually done a hand session review with someone else already (where I lost 500 at 5/10 in 167 hands), that said I still could be fake. i guess if you worry then just ignore me to avoid troubles xDDD, let's not forget that i play under the same name too, i do have other nicks though.

    OH and this is not my AP name, i used a hand converter to convert hh at the site i play at to AP format in order to import those hands, that's why you see AP in poker graph. (don't assume I play at AP because you see the word AP!) I paid 10$ to the guy who made it and he paid me 100 at the table so it's all good. xDDD

    If you want I can show you a 10k roll on one site I play at, I prefer to do it only when you are serious about staking me (as i never show a huge roll on the tables) further I don't keep my entire roll in one site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ineedcash112
    ive said it before and i'll say again, getting a stake is not my ultimate goal, the point is to improve my overall game.
    The long term posters at this forum have seen numerous new posters over the years take a beggar's name and request stakes in their first post in the forum. The statement you make above has been true for exactly NONE of them.

    Let's hope that you're the first person in that category for whom it is true, and that you've just made a very bad first impression. In the meantime, don't be surprised when you're called down frequently - you give off a lot of bluff tells.
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    np if you catch me bluffing some time, as I'll be making a lot of thin value bets in the future

    seriously no one is interested in swapping hand session for a review? d it ever happen before? once there is the word "stake" in a post the rest of it just goes meaningless? this costs nothing.

    obv a fail thread though.

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