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    Can I bet this river?

    And how is this overall, I don't play SH very often.

    BB seems like a poor player. Loose passive is my best guess at this point but I've only been at the table a couple of orbits.

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    Preflop: Hero is MP with , .
    1 fold, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls.

    Flop: (4.50 SB) , , (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

    Turn: (3.25 BB) (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

    River: (5.25 BB) (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero...

    I'm trying to think of the worse hands that call me here and can't think of many. There's no logical draw that he could have flopped other than a gutshot broadway and he's beating me with that now. He probably calls me with a small pocket pair here but he'll definitely raise me with an A and since he's passive I can't rule it out as a holding.

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    Based on your description of the player, I think you can bet river, planning to fold to a raise.

    Preflop is questionable. I'd usually muck this. If the table is very tight, I can see raising it, or if it's very passive and loose, I could see limping.
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    I think it really depends on how much credit you are going to give BB for being able to think. If he is really going to call down with any pocket pair, a hand like KT or T9, then you probably have a clear value bet folding to a raise, but if he is able to remember that you raised preflop, and stops to look at the board and work out exactly what hands you might have that his T9 beats, then I think checking is ok.

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    Very easy valuebet.

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    hey reb, do you just think that it's an easy value bet because of the player description or do you think that this is an easy value bet against any opponent?

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    hey reb, do you just think that it's an easy value bet because of the player description or do you think that this is an easy value bet against any opponent?

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    Against most opponents yes. And especially on the turn when a second ace hits. Unless he is extremely tight and passive and tends to call down with AT/AJ type hands against a preflop raiser fearing a bigger ace.

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    The river ace makes me more inclined to bet, not less..

    Easy value bet.

    I actually think you could fold to a raise here on a player dependent basis...
    Shut up and deal.

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    Just saw my friend Wynton's post...

    I'd definitely raise JTs...

    I'm raising lots more hands these days...I don't think J9s is a bad raise at a tightish table...
    Shut up and deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bazooka_joe
    Just saw my friend Wynton's post...

    I'd definitely raise JTs...

    I'm raising lots more hands these days...I don't think J9s is a bad raise at a tightish table...
    If you're going to play it you have to raise it. I'd usually mucjk this one, but would also raise JTs. However playing this hand for a raise isn't a terrible play, especially if - as you say - the table is playing tight.
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