ITH Poker Forum

[SuitedPair]

Mr. Miller has frequently taken offense at this advice from others, but I still think that learning to play with guidelines more like ITH and bringing concepts into your play later from SSH is a safer way to learn. The two things I would add immediately to my play as a newby would be raising more from the blinds as SSH suggests and raising strong and very strong draws. I would tend to avoid the advice on raising marginal draws in certain situations because I think there is too much danger you will not correctly recognize those situations. Of course, maybe now I'm the patronizing one.

For me, this approach has worked very well. I began by playing pretty much by Matt’s book and have been reasonably successful ( about 2BB/hr) with very little variance. Nside and I have been discussing SSH for some time now, and I have started making the above changes to my game. I have had good results without increasing my variance too much more. It’s not so much about bankroll management as it is about having fun (and perhaps some “wife management” on nside’s part).

[xrosswind]

People,

If you see a table with 50% and THEN sit down at the table and don't fold YOU are the 6th player.

I am not sure about this, if we assume that there is 9 people playing at a full ring game, which is showing around 50% seeing the flop, then when you join and assuming your a tight aggressive player then the percentage seeing the flop figure is almost certainly going to go below 50%.

If on the other hand we assume the 50% figure was for a 10 person game and someone leaves and then you join, then again when a tight player joins a game like this the percentage seeing the flop is going to go down. You might say it will stay the same because perhaps it was a tight player who left, but who is more likely to leave a table where 50% seeing the flop, a fish who has lost all his money or a tight player, I think most of the time it will be a fish.

I see those all the time at Party.

At what limit are you talking about, I have never played at party, but I would imagine you are only seeing figures of 50%+ seeing the flop at the first one or two limit levels.

I don't think you will see figures like this at $3/$6, in fact I have recently read a thread over on 2+2 where some people thought that the play at $3/$6 was gradually becoming tighter. Several players had poker tracker stats on the 3/6 tables which indicated a steady decline month on month of the percentage of players seeing the flop. If I recall correctly it was around 30%. If any part $3/$6 players are reading this, perhaps you would care to comment if you have noticed over the past few months that tables are tighter than they used to be.